Any Chance of a MinimServer Control Point App?

[simbun]

(22-03-2023 01:35)lyapounov Wrote:  

(19-03-2023 22:42)simbun Wrote:  But don't you see the contradiction? You say that Lumin has a focus, an elegance, and a simplicity to its design...as long as, of course, you've installed BubbleUPnP Server on a NAS in a docker container and have your UPnP renderers configured correctly.

You have a point here. But if the alternative is a complex app that works without OpenHome, I prefer the simplicity of the design, because once Openhome is set-up I don't need to manage this any longer.

I would genuinely like to understand why you think it's complex because I've encountered a few comments like that recently (although to be fair it seems to be from the crowd that's used to having a dedicated app like those from Plex/Emby e.t.c) and it seems to be the display of the 'Local and Cloud' tab; once you've made the changes I mentioned earlier (which is easier than installing BubbbleUPnP Server and is likewise a one-off), in my opinion it's more straightforward that Lumin because you just have 4 tabs to deal with.

(22-03-2023 01:35)lyapounov Wrote:  Around me I see two categories: the deep music lovers who have one system in their home in a specific room and Lumin is perfect, and the casual music lovers who have an integrated system with loudpeakers everywhere like Sonos and use the corresponding specific app.

I think you're right about the one system vs many, but "deep music lovers" vs "casual music lovers" is way off, I think it's more of a generational thing.


I've tried to focus on user experience vs pure aesthetics because that's very personal (and I actually prefer Hi-Fi Cast to both in many respects here), but here are my weaknesses on both systems, would love to hear yours.

Lumin

• Needs BubbleUPnP Server installed
• Default install of Lumin results in a blank page with only a tiny settings icon. Steve Jobs would not be happy ;-)
• Needless indexing (and associated UI elements)
• Browse settings (UPnP browsing icon size/orientation) reset on app close
• Would prefer to have independent index, listing and album (size/orientation) icon settings
• There doesn't appear to be a quick way to go back to the root of the browsing tree, so you have to backtrack all the way
• If you do use pinch to zoom, going back (using gesture or buttons) takes you to the previously sized icons rather than the previous browsing step
• Can't play from disc subtitles (or even show the tracks below it), yet the UI lets you add to the queue, but literally nothing happens, no queue change or message
• Need to go into the menu to switch libraries/renderers
• Can't continue a playlist on another renderer
• Keeps losing renderers
  

BubbleUPnP

• The Library pane in the default install is over complicated for a pure UPnP installation
• Would prefer to have independent index, listing and album (size/orientation) icon settings
  

I struggled to come up with many for BubbleUPnP but that might be unconcious bias, or because I've learnt to work around them.

Your point about having only a single system would negate some of my dislikes about Lumin, so maybe that's the sweet spot.