SONOS and MinimServer

[pierrejean75]

I send an email to SONOS every 3 months since 6 years about that ....

But they are totally closed !!!

The only approach is to have an UPnP or DNLA server compatible

Or to have a Rhapsody or Windows Media server

I thought that MinimServer was really UPnP but it seams that not

Because for example these 2 UPnP server work fine with SONOS

Asset UPnP from DBPowerAmp
Foobar 2000 + Pluggin UPnP

But they need Windows and do not have LINUX version

[simoncn]

(03-11-2013 13:24)pierrejean75 Wrote:  I thought that MinimServer was really UPnP but it seams that not

MinimServer is really UPnP. It is the Sonos control point that is not really UPnP, because it has been designed to support only Windows Media Server or Rhapsody.

[pierrejean75]

No no !!! lol

SONOS work very fine with many UPnP server as for example Foobar2000+PluginUPnP and with Asset UPnP from DbPowerAmp

I really think that you just have small things to change in your MinimServer to make it SONOS compatible

[hooliganshark]

(03-11-2013 13:50)pierrejean75 Wrote:  No no !!! lol

SONOS work very fine with many UPnP server as for example Foobar2000+PluginUPnP and with Asset UPnP from DbPowerAmp

I really think that you just have small things to change in your MinimServer to make it SONOS compatible

I disagree since my MinimServer is working fine with Sonos as a renderer.

Looking at the sonos forum I see you are trying to get around the 65k track limit, with your music on a synology nas - is this correct?

[pierrejean75]

Yes it is correct "our pb is to serv more than 65 000 files" I say "our" because we are may arround the world to have this problem

You "see" the MinimServer in the SONOS application ?????

I, only see, Windows Media Player, Asset UPnp, Foobar 2000, but not MinimServer

What I would like is that MinimServer appear in the Sonos software

Actually the only solution for me is to use a Windows computer running Asset UPnP or Windows Media Player

[simoncn]

(03-11-2013 13:50)pierrejean75 Wrote:  No no !!! lol

SONOS work very fine with many UPnP server as for example Foobar2000+PluginUPnP and with Asset UPnP from DbPowerAmp

These servers have added special code to emulate Windows Media Server or Rhapsody. MinimServer is a fully compliant UPnP server that is not emulating anything else.

Quote:I really think that you just have small things to change in your MinimServer to make it SONOS compatible

I have made a suggestion (twice) about a possible solution using BubbleUPnP Server as a proxy. Have you tried this?

Another option is to use a Sonos-compatible media server such as the recently announced Linux version of Asset UPnP.

[hooliganshark]

OK now I understand what you want, but I repeat that I believe there is nothing wrong or to be done with MinimServer, for the reasons I gave earlier. I

The Sonos track limit is as I am sure you know, a problem for them to solve, but I understand that it might cause you frustration. I doubt that it will be solved since as you know it has been there for a long time already, and I agree that using a upnp server is more likely to succeed!

I am not sure why you are able to see WMP/AssetUPNP/Foobar2000 but I cannot comment as I have no Windows machines any more. I cannot "see" any servers from the Sonos controller application. That includes instances of minidlna, PS3MediaServer and MinimServer on two devices and two different linux distros. This leads me to think that the server visibility you have is related to Windows, as you yourself said.

My solution is cheaper than having a windows machine on all the time. I now run a Raspberry Pi with MinimServer installed, and a USB drive. I use android tablets and phones here - with one purchase of Bubbleupnp for Android I can use that as a controller on all my android devices. I am pretty sure that this costs even less to buy and run than any Synology server and my experience is that MinimServer is working better for me than any of the others I have tried - including eg Plex, XBMC etc.

If it helps here are screenshots of bubbleupnp and the sonos controller on my tablet.

[hooliganshark]

(03-11-2013 14:43)simoncn Wrote:  These servers have added special code to emulate Windows Media Server or Rhapsody. MinimServer is a fully compliant UPnP server that is not emulating anything else.

I have only recently discovered MinimServer but it is precisely its minimalist philosophy which makes it stand out for me. That, and its (I think) total compliance with relevant standards, is what makes it so attractive. Adding emulation would go against this and would not enhance its value.

All IMHO.

[pierrejean75]

I have already but unsuccessfully BubbleUPnP Server

I did not know that DbPowerAmp as recently announced a Linux version of Asset UPnP. I will try this as soon as possible and will post here

Thank's for your help

[winxi]

(03-11-2013 14:47)hooliganshark Wrote:  I am not sure why you are able to see WMP/AssetUPNP/Foobar2000 but I cannot comment as I have no Windows machines any more. I cannot "see" any servers from the Sonos controller application. That includes instances of minidlna, PS3MediaServer and MinimServer on two devices and two different linux distros. This leads me to think that the server visibility you have is related to Windows, as you yourself said.

Hi, I don't own a Sonos device nor do I have ever used the Sonos controller.
However, it may be that the Sonos controller requires the server to support UPnP search to be visible. As far as I know, minidlna, PS3MediaServer and MinimServer do not (yet) support UPnP search, but WMP and AssetUPnP do (I'm not sure about foo_upnp).