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RE: Several questions - Alandbush - 16-03-2020 15:17
(16-03-2020 12:05)swdick Wrote: My tagging is Album, Composition, Title (the different parts of the composition).
Given your current tagging approach, you may like to explore one of Minimservers features, Tag formatting.
With this feature, you can change the display of the Title tag used by Kazoo.
Personally, I have used the following tags for many of my classical pieces:
- Work
eg. Symphony No. 1 in A major
- Work Number
eg. Op. 55
- Movement Number
eg. IV
- Movement Name
eg. Andante
I then instruct Minimserver to use these by entering into the 'tagFormat' option the following:-
Title.displayFormat={$work$work number^^^, $movement number$movement name^: ^^. }
This results in the following display:-
Symphony No. 1 in A major, Op. 55: IV. Andante
For your current instance, you could try
Title.displayFormat={$composition$title^^^, }
nb - you must also add the composition tag into the 'itemTags' option
RE: Several questions - swdick - 16-03-2020 23:28
Thanks, that seems to work, except when the title tag is empty. In that case the filename is included resulting in a double sort of naming.
I suppose I'll have to change the Composition tag for the Title tag for all compostions that consist of only one part.
Perhaps I can get Mp3tag to do this in a batch.
RE: Several questions - simoncn - 17-03-2020 09:47
You can prevent the filename being substituted for an empty title by doing the following:
1) In itemTags, add TitleValue
2) In aliasTags, add Title:TitleValue
3) Change Title.displayFormat={$composition$title^^^, } to Title.displayFormat={$composition$titlevalue^^^, }
RE: Several questions - swdick - 17-03-2020 12:31
Super, it works. Saves me a lot of time!
RE: Several questions - swdick - 18-03-2020 17:09
I now have my colllection tagged in the following manner:
* the Composition tag is used for the name of the work, e.g. Symphony No. 1
* TheTilte tag is used for the parts of the work, e.g. 1. Andante
* When there are no specified parts (the work has only one part) the Title tag is empty (deleted)
* I display with title.displayFormat($composition$title) (by the way, there is no separation in between)
This works in principle but often the display is too small for the complete text.
Furthermore the name of the composition is often repeated and therefore superfluous.
In Kazoo I see the Album in the head of the display.
If I delete $composition from the displayFormat I can't see what composition is playing.
I would like to use the place for the ALbum for the Composition of the playing item. I can then use the items list for the Title tag only. Can I change (substtitute) the value of the Album tag for the Composition tag without altering the album tag? I read the text of the user guide but didn't understand fully what it says.
If this is not possible in Kazoo, is there another control point that can do this?
RE: Several questions - simoncn - 18-03-2020 17:59
This should work as you want if you add the Group tag to your files. In most cases, you should set the value of the Group tag to be the same as the value of the Composition tag. This is explained in more detail in this section.
RE: Several questions - swdick - 18-03-2020 20:37
Do I have to group every composition separetely or can I just select all files and format the group tag as composition tag?
Wil the tag alias Album:Composition do the trick?
What happens in that case to the Album tag?
RE: Several questions - simoncn - 18-03-2020 20:52
I don't think Album:Composition would be useful. You could try Composition:-Album (that's colon minus). The minus removes the Album tag if there is a Composition to replace it. The results could be a bit surprising but might be close to what you want.
As I have said, Group and Composition are not the same thing. You can make them the same quite easily and this will work most of the time. To make them the same, set Group.default={Composition} in tagValue.
RE: Several questions - swdick - 19-03-2020 09:42
After some experimenting on a small scale I have now chosen for the following setting:
Group.default={Composition} and I set for one part works the title the same as composition.
If I don't the filename will be shown (even if I use your Title:TitleValue trick) and the ALbum will be shown on top in stead of the Composition.
Is there a trick to use Composition in stead of Title when Title is absent or empty?
In other words can MinimWatch use conditional settings?
RE: Several questions - simoncn - 19-03-2020 09:59
The filename will not be shown if you follow all the instructions that I posted for Title:TitleValue. If the filename is being shown, you are missing a required tagFormat setting. Please post all of your settings for all properties.
You can use one tag in place of another tag if the tag is absent or empty. To do this for Composition and Title, use the following in tagValue:
Title.default={Composition}