Adding radio to Naim App
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30-06-2025, 12:34
Post: #31
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
I have tried this with my Naim renderer. The Naim is unable to play AAC ADTS streams and this is why the BBC R4 stream isn't playing. The solution is to transcode the stream to WAV format by putting *:wav24 in the MinimStreamer stream.transcode property. After doing this, refresh the list of streams in the Naim app.
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30-06-2025, 13:06
Post: #32
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
Thanks for getting back to me simon.
I have already put transcode in. You reported it was transcoding ok in your message 27/6 "Thanks for this. The log shows no issues on the MinimServer side. MinimServer is reading the stream from the URL, transcoding it using MinimStreamer and ffmpeg and sending it to the renderer. The renderer is reading the stream that MinimServer is sending." Still doesn't work I'm afraid. What Naim renderer do you have? When you say refresh from the Naim app, what do you mean exactly? I am controlling via the naim front panel on the NDS (renderer) directly. I do a rescan after every m3u file update. |
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30-06-2025, 13:10
Post: #33
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
See properties image attached
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30-06-2025, 13:14
Post: #34
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
A thought, I am using DSM 7.1 on a synology NAS. Do I need a different version of ffmpeg? I haven't downloaded anything special
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30-06-2025, 14:36
(This post was last modified: 30-06-2025 14:37 by Flyersteve67.)
Post: #35
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
Seems not.
I just installed ffmpeg6 on my NAS following the minimstreamer userguide instructions and set the stream.converter to /var/packages/ffmpeg6/target/bin/ffmpeg NDS still says can't open/Can't play. I also tried a reboot of the NDS |
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30-06-2025, 15:06
(This post was last modified: 30-06-2025 15:07 by simoncn.)
Post: #36
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
My apologies for not recalling that you already have *:wav24 transcoding enabled.
My Naim renderer is a very old Uniti-214A. For my testing I was controlling this renderer from the "Focal & Naim" app on my Android phone. To refresh the list of streams in the app, I click the back button on the phone which takes me to MinimServer's list of playlists, then I select the test playlist again. I have also tried playing the stream from the BubbleUPnP control app. This also works. I am unable to try playing the stream from the Uniti front panel because the OLED on the Uniti has faded over time and is now invisible. Are you able to try playing a stream from the Focal & Naim app or from another UPnP control app such as BubbleUPnP? |
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30-06-2025, 15:14
Post: #37
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
Regarding ffmpeg versions, on a Synology NAS you do need to install a third-party version of ffmpeg for transcoding ADTS/AAC streams, as described in Note 1 in this section.
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30-06-2025, 15:18
Post: #38
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
Hi Simon, I think the ffmpeg6 did it. I was testing with a radio3 feed which may be malformed as that won't play.
I went back to an earlier m3u file with R4 in it and it plays ok now, as does R1 and R1X. Play from both front panel and naim app. This works now #EXTM3U #EXTINF:-1,[R1] BBC Radio 1 http://lstn.lv/bbcradio.m3u8?station=bbc...rate=96000 #EXTINF:-1,[R1X] BBC Radio 1Xtra http://lstn.lv/bbcradio.m3u8?station=bbc...rate=96000 however this doesn't #EXTINF:-1,[R3] Classic hits 70's 80's neither does this (I picked this up from another post in this forum) #EXTINF:-1,[R10;aac,320000] BBC Radio - 3 http://as-hls-ww-live.akamaized.net/pool...ewind.m3u8 (all the above use LF only as EOL) Can you identify the errors in the above Classic hits and also do you have #EXTINF and urls for Radio 2 to radio 5? Thanks |
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30-06-2025, 15:46
Post: #39
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
I am pleased to hear this is working for you now.
I am not familiar with the "Classic hits" stream, so I can't help with the URL for this. I can't provide URLs for BBC streams because the BBC stopped providing officially supported URLs some time ago and now wants everyone to use BBC Sounds. There are sites that list unofficial BBC URLs, so you can search the web to try to find something that works. You might need to update the URL from time to time as these unofficial URLs can change. There is no issue with using LF vs CR/LF in m3u files (see post #24). |
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30-06-2025, 16:15
Post: #40
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RE: Adding radio to Naim App
Ok, thanks for your help with this
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