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Playlist Problems
29-09-2024, 18:18 (This post was last modified: 29-09-2024 18:30 by Ignatz.)
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Playlist Problems
I'm creating .m3u playlists using MP3Tag. They write out correctly and, if I examine them, they have file paths for all the songs that I've placed in the playlist. However, in the Naim app, they don't display properly. This playlist has 33 songs in it. The album artwork is wrong, too: there are no songs from that album in this playlist.

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This one, the tracks are displaying as individual albums, so won't advance to the next song. All the songs in this playlist have the same disc number (1, I know this can cause problems sometimes). This one isn't displaying all the tracks that are in the playlist, either (only 29 of 36). At the moment, I can't attach the .m3u files as attachments, because my NAS has disappeared from my network...

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EDIT: I've managed to add the .m3u files to the reply following this...

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29-09-2024, 18:29 (This post was last modified: 29-09-2024 18:31 by Ignatz.)
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RE: Playlist Problems

.m3u  Scott Walker.m3u (Size: 2 KB / Downloads: 1)
.m3u  The Monochrome Set.m3u (Size: 3.88 KB / Downloads: 1)

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29-09-2024, 19:00 (This post was last modified: 29-09-2024 19:00 by simoncn.)
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RE: Playlist Problems
These playlists should be named as .m3u8 instead of .m3u. This is because they both contain the UTF-8 character "horizontal ellipsis" (see this page). The file extension .m3u8 indicates that the playlist is encoded as UTF-8 and the .m3u file extension indicates that it is encoded as Windows-1252.

You should be seeing error messages in the MinimServer log telling you that the file paths containing this character cannot be found. If you are not seeing these messages, the following folder names might be encoded incorrectly in your file system:

Scott Walker ... Compilation
Volume, Contrast, Brilliance... (Unreleased & Rare) Vol. 2

I am not sure whether the other problems you are seeing are related to this issue. I suggest you fix this and try again to see if things have improved.
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29-09-2024, 19:11
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RE: Playlist Problems
Thanks for the rapid reply, Simon... your suggestion fixed it for the Scott Walker playlist, but the other one now displays like this:

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29-09-2024, 19:32
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RE: Playlist Problems
It looks like you have A-Z sorting enabled in the Naim app. This should never be enabled when using MinimServer. Disabling this should improve things.
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29-09-2024, 19:37
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RE: Playlist Problems
(29-09-2024 19:32)simoncn Wrote:  It looks like you have A-Z sorting enabled in the Naim app. This should never be enabled when using MinimServer. Disabling this should improve things.

Thanks, Simon – I've turned on 'Server Default' sorting, but It just goes back to as in the first post...

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29-09-2024, 21:44 (This post was last modified: 29-09-2024 21:45 by simoncn.)
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RE: Playlist Problems
Have you checked the MinimServer log for error messages about the missing tracks?

Which tracks are missing? You have said 29 tracks out of 36 are displayed but the playlist contains 42 tracks.

Have you done a MinimServer rescan after updating the playlists?
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30-09-2024, 12:28
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RE: Playlist Problems
(29-09-2024 21:44)simoncn Wrote:  Have you checked the MinimServer log for error messages about the missing tracks?

Which tracks are missing? You have said 29 tracks out of 36 are displayed but the playlist contains 42 tracks.

Have you done a MinimServer rescan after updating the playlists?

Pardon my ignorance, but how do I check / where do I find the log file..? Although the missing tracks seems to have righted itself since switching to 'Server Default' ordering.

Also, the problems that I'm having seem to be related to the Naim app. I noticed that the Scott Walker playlist had changed from Track List view to the 'Album Cover' view. The only change I'd made was adding another playlist. The newly-added playlist (Led Zeppelin) was displaying in Track List view as expected:

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OK, wrong Playlist title and artwork, but I can live with that... Now, to check, I added another playlist aaaand...

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The Led Zeppelin playlist has switched to Album Cover view! It seems that it's adding a new playlist that's causing the switch from Track List view to Album Cover view in the other playlists...

To check this, I looked in the WiiM Home app (my WiiM Pro is connected to the same NAS running MinimServer as the NDS).

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All playlists are displaying perfectly. So the problem would seem to be with the Naim app...

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30-09-2024, 21:54
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RE: Playlist Problems
(30-09-2024 12:28)Ignatz Wrote:  Pardon my ignorance, but how do I check / where do I find the log file..?

On a Synology NAS, the MinimServer log file is a file named minimserver.log in the MinimServer/appData shared folder.

Quote:To check this, I looked in the WiiM Home app (my WiiM Pro is connected to the same NAS running MinimServer as the NDS).

All playlists are displaying perfectly. So the problem would seem to be with the Naim app...

It is often useful to try a different control point app to confirm whether an incorrect display is caused by your control point app or by MinimServer.
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