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mikehd · 12-04-2023, 01:49

I've just converted from Serviio for my music server to MinimServer and have been pleased with its speed and simplicity. It works with Wiim Home app much better, with faster browsing.

What is missing still, is album art at the Artist and Album level. Is this an issue with Wiim Home? Album art shows at those levels just fine with BubbleUpnP, but it has issues with multiple users, and complicates things a bit.

thanks,

Mike

simbun · 12-04-2023, 08:35

Hi @mikehd,

(12-04-2023 01:49)mikehd Wrote: What is missing still, is album art at the Artist and Album level. Is this an issue with Wiim Home?

I don't know if you saw this post, but Brantome confirmed to me that the iOS WiiM app does display album art whilst the Android version doesn't, so yes it's another WiiM bug/problem.

(12-04-2023 01:49)mikehd Wrote: Album art shows at those levels just fine with BubbleUpnP, but it has issues with multiple users, and complicates things a bit.

Are you still having problems losing the OpenHome proxy?

If you're using the licensed version of MinimServer (or the trial, but you will lose these customisations when the trial ends) and are using the WiiM app, you'll want to include the following in your configuration:

Code:

aliasTags: DiscSubtitle:nil

They added a "fix" to the latest app that not only broke track ordering (which they'd actually fixed in the previous release) but also now causes the WiiM app to crash if it encounters Disc Subtitles. This configuration option removes any disc subtitles that you do have (only within MinimServer) so it won't cause a problem.

Code:

tagFormat: title.displayFormat={$tracknumber^^ - ^$title}

The WiiM app doesn't display track number so this simply adds the track number to the display version of the title tag.

Code:

upnpCustom: roleTags={}

Whilst WiiM did add artist information to the track listing in the last release, they didn't do it properly, they probably just read in the first '<upnp:artist>' xml tag which for most servers will be AlbumArtist. The above configuration option simply prevents the AlbumArtist tag being sent with the track information so they have no choice but to display the track artist.

If however you want to keep using BubbleUPnP with MinimServer and there's the possibility of having a period in the last 3 characters of your filenames (excluding the file extension) then you'll want to proxy MinimServer with BubbleUPnP because of this bug.

I think I've mentioned all of these points in the WiiM forums but I thought I'd bring them together just in case you missed them.

Using the WiiM really is like walking a tightrope!

mikehd · 13-04-2023, 03:04

(12-04-2023 08:35)simbun Wrote: I don't know if you saw this post, but Brantome confirmed to me that the iOS WiiM app does display album art whilst the Android version doesn't, so yes it's another WiiM bug/problem.

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that before. Guess I should open a ticket with Wiim for this?

(12-04-2023 08:35)simbun Wrote: Are you still having problems losing the OpenHome proxy?

Yes, it seems to lose the OpenHome proxy. I've not tried it with MinimServer so will do so and see if that stabilizes it.

Thanks for the configuration tips on MinimServer. I haven't ran into any issues without them so will likely keep it simple for now.

simbun · 13-04-2023, 14:46

(13-04-2023 03:04)mikehd Wrote: Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that before. Guess I should open a ticket with Wiim for this?

I don't know if it would be a bug or a feature request.

(13-04-2023 03:04)mikehd Wrote:
(12-04-2023 08:35)simbun Wrote: Are you still having problems losing the OpenHome proxy?
Yes, it seems to lose the OpenHome proxy. I've not tried it with MinimServer so will do so and see if that stabilizes it.

Proxying MinimServer won't help with losing the WiiM proxy in BubbleUPnP. The only affect proxying MinimServer will have is instead of the renderer receiving a URL served by MinimServer that contains the actual path and filename of the track, it will instead recieve one from BubbleUPnP server that looks like a hash, possibly of the path and filename.

From MinimServer:

Code:

http://xxx.xxx.x.xx:9790/minimserver/*/MUSIC/Adele/2008*20-*2019*20(Expanded*20Edition)/CD01/01.01.flac

From BubbleUPnP:

Code:

http://xxx.xxx.x.xx:58050/stream/audio/35cab99d60950d4842a265fda2bffc60.flac

Because the WiiM can't handle periods in the last 3 letters of the filename (excluding the period and file extension) it fails to play the first resource, but will play the latter.

Whilst proxying MinimServer does help to address the WiiM bug, I create playlists in BubbleUPnP and have a script that converts them into .m3u8 playlists for hosting in MinimServer, and without the real filenames I can't do that.

I'm surprised you're having problems with the WiiM proxy; I've kept an eye on mine for the best part of the last week and it's UUID has stayed the same so it hasn't lost it's OpenHome features - although I do have Chromecast disabled.
How often are you losing it? Does the non-OpenHome WiiM appear back in the BubbleUPnP renderers list (this assumes you're hiding it).

Might be worth looking at the configuration.xml to see how many definitions you have in there for the WiiM:

Code:

<entry udn="FF98....">

    <renderer>

        <openHomeEnable>true</openHomeEnable>

        <openHomeName>WiiM Pro</openHomeName>

        ....

    </renderer>

</entry>

I've seen this behaviour on Chromecast devices before so it's not new, but for me it seems to be when they've had a firmware update, so I only encounter it once a month or so.
I did toy with the idea of scheduling a script to update the configuration.xml to enable the OpenHome proxy, but it's never been a big enough problem for me to address.

mikehd · 13-04-2023, 23:53

(13-04-2023 14:46)simbun Wrote: I'm surprised you're having problems with the WiiM proxy; I've kept an eye on mine for the best part of the last week and it's UUID has stayed the same so it hasn't lost it's OpenHome features - although I do have Chromecast disabled.
How often are you losing it? Does the non-OpenHome WiiM appear back in the BubbleUPnP renderers list (this assumes you're hiding it).

I don't have a good idea of how often I was losing the OpenHome WiiM device. I set mine back up on the Bubble server, and hid the devices that confuses things yesterday and it has been running well all day. The only thing I've noticed is that the Bubble server on my music server initially displayed the default icon for my WiiM Pro (USB key type device) along with another icon for the OpenHome renderer for the WiiM Pro (looked like a pair of headphones, if you squint hard). Today the OpenHome renderer for WiiM isn't showing in the server renderer webpage, but is still what is available to our phones (and is in use) on Bubble. When I click on the icon for my WiiM Pro it shows that OpenHome is still enabled.

simbun · 14-04-2023, 09:28

(13-04-2023 23:53)mikehd Wrote: I don't have a good idea of how often I was losing the OpenHome WiiM device. I set mine back up on the Bubble server, and hid the devices that confuses things yesterday and it has been running well all day. The only thing I've noticed is that the Bubble server on my music server initially displayed the default icon for my WiiM Pro (USB key type device) along with another icon for the OpenHome renderer for the WiiM Pro (looked like a pair of headphones, if you squint hard). Today the OpenHome renderer for WiiM isn't showing in the server renderer webpage, but is still what is available to our phones (and is in use) on Bubble. When I click on the icon for my WiiM Pro it shows that OpenHome is still enabled.

I've just replied to your question on XDA so hopefully that will clear a couple of things up.

I just performed a reset on my PRO and it retained the same UUID so you certainly shouldn't be losing it very often in the BubbleUPnP app, maybe only after firmware updates as I mentioned before.