Using ReverseName option

[HardBop]

I've been trying to format classical composers with reference to the User Guide but are struggling to complete it.
My albums are currently formatted (as I would want) with "Composer" being full name e.g. Ludwig van Beethoven, and "Composer Sort" being Beethoven, Ludwig van. I'm trying, on my control point, to display the composer in the index by the latter; surname and then Christian name. Despite trying, what I thought were all options, I'm still getting composers displayed by full name - Christian followed by Surname.
Grateful for assistance in confirming how I should populate: itemTags; tagOptions and tagValue. Thanks.

[simbun]

(13-01-2021 12:51)HardBop Wrote:  I'm trying, on my control point, to display the composer in the index by the latter; surname and then Christian name.

Have you tried in tagValue: Composer.value.index={ComposerSort}
ComposerSort will also need to be referened in itemTags if it isn't already.

That should just change the display of the index, leaving the sort order unaffected.

[HardBop]

(13-01-2021 13:42)simbun Wrote:  

(13-01-2021 12:51)HardBop Wrote:  I'm trying, on my control point, to display the composer in the index by the latter; surname and then Christian name.

Have you tried in tagValue: Composer.value.index={ComposerSort}
ComposerSort will also need to be referened in itemTags if it isn't already.

That should just change the display of the index, leaving the sort order unaffected.

Thanks Simon, that has sorted it. I think I was getting bogged down in formatting as per the user Guide for when the name format was different to what I already had.

[simbun]

(13-01-2021 14:17)HardBop Wrote:  I think I was getting bogged down in formatting as per the user Guide for when the name format was different to what I already had.

reverseName is useful if you have Composer but not a ComposerSort, and your Composer tag is stored as 'lastname, firstname' but you want to use it as 'firstname lastname' in your index/sort/display e.g. Composer.reverseName.display.

There's a lot of good information in the user guides, but sometimes it's a little overwhelming.

[simoncn]

Another option (simpler) is to put ComposerSort:Composer in indexTags instead of Composer. If you do this, you should add Composer to itemTags so that the "firstname lastname" form is sent to the control point for display. With this approach, you don't need anything in tagValue.

[HardBop]

(13-01-2021 17:48)simoncn Wrote:  Another option (simpler) is to put ComposerSort:Composer in indexTags instead of Composer. If you do this, you should add Composer to itemTags so that the "firstname lastname" form is sent to the control point for display. With this approach, you don't need anything in tagValue.

Thanks Simon, your last solution works and is simpler.
I was actually coming back to you on your previous solution because when I used a different control point (Lumin and Kazoo) it had ordered them by Christian name even though Surname was first e.g. Rousell, Albert before Liszt, Franz. However, on the Naim App, which has the choice of "Server default" or "alphabetical" it worked fine for alpha order but as per Lumin and Kazoo for server default.
All control points fine now with your last option! Thanks.

[simoncn]

FYI, simoncn and simbun are not the same person.

[Alandbush]

(14-01-2021 22:06)HardBop Wrote:  Thanks Simon, your last solution works and is simpler.
I was actually coming back to you on your previous solution because when I used a different control point (Lumin and Kazoo) it had ordered them by Christian name even though Surname was first e.g. Rousell, Albert before Liszt, Franz. However, on the Naim App, which has the choice of "Server default" or "alphabetical" it worked fine for alpha order but as per Lumin and Kazoo for server default.
All control points fine now with your last option! Thanks.

Ideally, for your case, the suggestion from simbun should have been

Code:

Composer.value.sort.index={ComposerSort}

Composer sorted by ComposerSort with the index displaying ComposerSort but other references to Composer being the Composer value.

Just an indication of the flexibility of MinimServer I suppose.