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MinimWatch on MacOs
21-10-2019, 06:23
Post: #11
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
(18-10-2019 13:48)simoncn Wrote:  This version of Java should be fine.

You might be able to find more information about the MinimWatch start error in the minimwatch.log and/or minimwatch-out.log files in the ~/Library/MinimWatch folder. Another place you could look is the macOS console log. To view this, open the Applications/Untilities/Console program.

There's nothing recent in either of the log files. The relevant bit of the console log is:

default 06:16:14.388017+0100 lsd Non-fatal error enumerating at <private>, continuing: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=260 "The file “PlugIns” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file." UserInfo={NSURL=PlugIns/ -- file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/, NSFilePath=/Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/PlugIns, NSUnderlyingError=0x7ffc0a726200 {Error Domain=NSPOSIXErrorDomain Code=2 "No such file or directory"}}
default 06:16:14.388066+0100 lsd - 45683955: Checking whether application is managed at file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app//com.minimserver.watch
default 06:16:14.402976+0100 lsd SecTranslocateCreateSecureDirectoryForURL: created /private/var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/C3999F3E-3516-427F-8FC1-A2C6BFEABC27/d/MinimWatch.app
default 06:16:14.423701+0100 Dock LAUNCHING:0x0-0x4f44f4 MinimWatch foreground=0 bringForward=0 seed=930 userActivityCount=0
default 06:16:14.460541+0100 amfid /private/var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/C3999F3E-3516-427F-8FC1-A2C6BFEABC27/d/MinimWatch.app/Contents/MacOS/MinimJavaLauncher signature not valid: -67050
default 06:16:14.468835+0100 loginwindow -[ApplicationManager checkInAppContext:eventData:] | ApplicationManager: Checked in app : MinimWatch
default 06:16:14.512847+0100 lsd Non-fatal error enumerating at <private>, continuing: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=260 "The file “PlugIns” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file." UserInfo={NSURL=PlugIns/ -- file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/, NSFilePath=/Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/PlugIns, NSUnderlyingError=0x7ffc0a5909c0 {Error Domain=NSPOSIXErrorDomain Code=2 "No such file or directory"}}
default 06:16:14.513004+0100 lsd - 45683955: Checking whether application is managed at file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app//com.minimserver.watch
default 06:16:14.528685+0100 lsd Non-fatal error enumerating at <private>, continuing: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=260 "The file “PlugIns” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file." UserInfo={NSURL=PlugIns/ -- file:///var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/C3999F3E-3516-427F-8FC1-A2C6BFEABC27/d/MinimWatch.app/Contents/, NSFilePath=/var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/C3999F3E-3516-427F-8FC1-A2C6BFEABC27/d/MinimWatch.app/Contents/PlugIns, NSUnderlyingError=0x7fe377eae0e0 {Error Domain=NSPOSIXErrorDomain Code=2 "No such file or directory"}}
default 06:16:14.528836+0100 lsd - 45683955: Checking whether application is managed at file:///var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/C3999F3E-3516-427F-8FC1-A2C6BFEABC27/d/MinimWatch.app//com.minimserver.watch
default 06:16:14.606100+0100 kernel initiating malware scan (chgtime: 1571311212 lastFileScanTime: 1570961153 pid: 53562 info_path: /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home/lib/libverify.dylib proc_path: /Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/MacOS/MinimJavaLauncher
default 06:16:14.833477+0100 loginwindow -[PersistentAppsSupport applicationQuit:] | for app:MinimWatch, _appTrackingState = 2
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21-10-2019, 08:49
Post: #12
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
From this log, it looks like you didn't follow step 4 in this section but have launched MinimWatch from the .dmg volume window.
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21-10-2019, 22:31
Post: #13
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
Apologies - I thought that's what I'd dine, but I obviously hadn't. This time I get

default 22:29:42.376439+0100 lsd Non-fatal error enumerating at <private>, continuing: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=260 "The file “PlugIns” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file." UserInfo={NSURL=PlugIns/ -- file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/, NSFilePath=/Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/PlugIns, NSUnderlyingError=0x7ffc0c87d280 {Error Domain=NSPOSIXErrorDomain Code=2 "No such file or directory"}}
default 22:29:42.376499+0100 lsd - 45683955: Checking whether application is managed at file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app//com.minimserver.watch
default 22:29:42.387131+0100 lsd SecTranslocateCreateSecureDirectoryForURL: created /private/var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/7904BA4A-0633-46A6-976F-EF0992E2758C/d/MinimWatch.app
default 22:29:42.411035+0100 Dock LAUNCHING:0x0-0x55e55e MinimWatch foreground=0 bringForward=0 seed=965 userActivityCount=0
default 22:29:42.446822+0100 loginwindow -[ApplicationManager checkInAppContext:eventData:] | ApplicationManager: Checked in app : MinimWatch
default 22:29:42.442769+0100 amfid /private/var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/7904BA4A-0633-46A6-976F-EF0992E2758C/d/MinimWatch.app/Contents/MacOS/MinimJavaLauncher signature not valid: -67050
default 22:29:42.575064+0100 lsd Non-fatal error enumerating at <private>, continuing: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=260 "The file “PlugIns” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file." UserInfo={NSURL=PlugIns/ -- file:///var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/7904BA4A-0633-46A6-976F-EF0992E2758C/d/MinimWatch.app/Contents/, NSFilePath=/var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/7904BA4A-0633-46A6-976F-EF0992E2758C/d/MinimWatch.app/Contents/PlugIns, NSUnderlyingError=0x7fe377f74fe0 {Error Domain=NSPOSIXErrorDomain Code=2 "No such file or directory"}}
default 22:29:42.575170+0100 lsd - 45683955: Checking whether application is managed at file:///var/folders/1b/fcqslvbn3fd00c6hf8r8391m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/7904BA4A-0633-46A6-976F-EF0992E2758C/d/MinimWatch.app//com.minimserver.watch
default 22:29:42.766944+0100 loginwindow -[PersistentAppsSupport applicationQuit:] | for app:MinimWatch, _appTrackingState = 2
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22-10-2019, 07:57
Post: #14
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
This looks like the same problem. See the log entry at 22:29:42.376499 referring to file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app//com.minimserver.watch. Perhaps you need to logout/login or reboot the Mac to flush some cache of previous attempts.
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22-10-2019, 13:02
Post: #15
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
OK

Apologies for the amount of your time this is taking up, launching it from Finder with Control/click I get

default 12:58:55.167684+0100 cloudd boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_rsa_key_size(1321) [C12.1:2][0x7fad8d6c8e60] set 0
default 12:58:55.167748+0100 cloudd boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_ecdsa_key_size(1330) [C12.1:2][0x7fad8d6c8e60] set 0
default 12:58:55.167817+0100 cloudd boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_signature_algorithm(1340) [C12.1:2][0x7fad8d6c8e60] set 0
default 12:58:56.281666+0100 OneDrive boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_rsa_key_size(1321) [C18.1:2][0x7fca06746320] set 0
default 12:58:56.281680+0100 OneDrive boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_ecdsa_key_size(1330) [C18.1:2][0x7fca06746320] set 0
default 12:58:56.281692+0100 OneDrive boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_signature_algorithm(1340) [C18.1:2][0x7fca06746320] set 0
default 12:59:52.882786+0100 lsd Non-fatal error enumerating at <private>, continuing: Error Domain=NSCocoaErrorDomain Code=260 "The file “PlugIns” couldn’t be opened because there is no such file." UserInfo={NSURL=PlugIns/ -- file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/, NSFilePath=/Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app/Contents/PlugIns, NSUnderlyingError=0x7ffc0a5f15b0 {Error Domain=NSPOSIXErrorDomain Code=2 "No such file or directory"}}
default 12:59:52.882878+0100 lsd - 45683955: Checking whether application is managed at file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app//com.minimserver.watch
default 12:59:52.970957+0100 runningboardd Acquiring assertion targeting executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)> from originator [daemon<com.apple.coreservices.launchservicesd>:157] with description <RBSAssertionDescriptor; uielement:61217; ID: 396-157-4166; target: 61217> attributes = {
<RBSDomainAttribute: 0x7f8bfe536af0; domain: com.apple.launchservicesd; name: RoleUserInteractive; sourceEnvironment: 0x0>;
}
default 12:59:52.971066+0100 runningboardd Assertion 396-157-4166 (target:executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>) will be created as active
default 12:59:52.971477+0100 runningboardd Acquiring assertion targeting executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)> from originator [daemon<com.apple.coreservices.launchservicesd>:157] with description <RBSAssertionDescriptor; uielement:61217; ID: 396-157-4167; target: 61217> attributes = {
<RBSDomainAttribute: 0x7f8bfe6506b0; domain: com.apple.launchservicesd; name: RoleUserInteractive; sourceEnvironment: 0x0>;
}
default 12:59:52.971569+0100 runningboardd [executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>:61217] Ignoring jetsam update because this process is not memory-managed
default 12:59:52.971677+0100 runningboardd Assertion 396-157-4167 (target:executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>) will be created as active
default 12:59:52.971641+0100 runningboardd [executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>:61217] Ignoring resume because this process is not lifecycle managed
default 12:59:52.971816+0100 runningboardd Finished acquiring assertion 396-157-4166 (target:executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>)
default 12:59:52.971843+0100 runningboardd [executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>:61217] Set darwin role to: UserInteractive
default 12:59:52.971940+0100 runningboardd [executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>:61217] Ignoring GPU update because this process is not GPU managed
default 12:59:52.972208+0100 runningboardd Finished acquiring assertion 396-157-4167 (target:executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>)
default 12:59:52.972217+0100 runningboardd Invalidating assertion 396-157-4166 (target:executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>) from originator 157
default 12:59:53.214643+0100 nehelper Handling an apps installed notification with bundle IDs (
"com.minimserver.watch"
)
default 12:59:53.218184+0100 dmd Received xpc stream event (distributed notification matching) with name: com.apple.LaunchServices.applicationRegistered user info: {
bundleIDs = (
"com.minimserver.watch"
);
isPlaceholder = 0;
}
default 12:59:53.227735+0100 runningboardd [executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>:61217] Death sentinel fired!
default 12:59:53.241112+0100 loginwindow -[PersistentAppsSupport applicationQuit:] | for app:MinimWatch, _appTrackingState = 2
default 12:59:53.277478+0100 runningboardd Invalidating assertion 396-157-4167 (target:executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>) from originator 157
default 12:59:53.327923+0100 runningboardd Removing process: [executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>:61217]
default 12:59:53.339085+0100 runningboardd Removing assertions for terminated process: [executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>:61217]
error 12:59:53.479319+0100 runningboardd RBSStateCapture remove item called for untracked item 396-157-4167 (target:executable<MinimJavaLauncher(501)>)
default 13:00:09.414189+0100 assistantd boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_rsa_key_size(1321) [C14.1:2][0x7f8f32500f50] set 0
default 13:00:09.414258+0100 assistantd boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_ecdsa_key_size(1330) [C14.1:2][0x7f8f32500f50] set 0
default 13:00:09.414339+0100 assistantd boringssl_context_set_ats_minimum_signature_algorithm(1340) [C14.1:2][0x7f8f32500f50] set 0
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22-10-2019, 13:18
Post: #16
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
This shows the same problem with file:///Volumes/MinimWatch-0.8.5.2-macos/MinimWatch.app//com.minimserver.watch (see the message at 12:59:52.882878).

Is this happening after you have dragged MinimWatch from the .dmg window to the Applications directory and powered the machine off and on? For some reason, the console log is still showing the previous incorrect location for this file.
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22-10-2019, 14:25
Post: #17
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
It is (still happening that is).

I'm not sure if there are any other users trying to run MinimWatch under Catalina, and whether any of them are having similar issues. If it's just me then I wouldn't spend any more time on it Simon.
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22-10-2019, 14:48
Post: #18
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
You could try a few more things:

1) Rename the MinimWatch file that is currently in the Applications folder and try double-clicking the renamed file

2) After doing this rename, drag a new copy of MinimWatch from the .dmg window to some other folder (not Applications) and see if double-clicking it from the other folder produces a different result

3) Try installing MinimServer to see if this works. If you haven't installed MinimServer previously, there should be no incorrect cached entries from previous attempts.

One more idea: I wonder if you have accidentally created a symbolic link when you dragged MinimWatch to your Applications folder (see this article). You need to have a copy of the MinimWatch launcher in your Applications folder, not a link.
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24-10-2019, 20:56
Post: #19
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
Curiouser and Curiouser.

Your option 1 worked - I renamed MinimWatch in the Applications folder using Finder, double clicked on the renamed file and MinimWatch sprang into life.

Not sure why, but hey....

Thanks very much Simon.

Alan
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24-10-2019, 22:05 (This post was last modified: 24-10-2019 22:06 by simoncn.)
Post: #20
RE: MinimWatch on MacOs
Thanks for letting me know. This confims that the problem was caused by out-of-date cached information in macOS about the application named MinimWatch.
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