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Radio Paradise Lossless
16-01-2019, 07:41
Post: #1
Radio Paradise Lossless
Feeling very proud of myself for having (albeit with a little help!!) successfully installed MinimServer on a Raspberry Pi, I am wondering…

a) is it possible to stream Radio Paradise's lossless stream/source to my naim streamers/network players via MinimServer?

b) if so, could anyone please be so kind as to provide this noobie with detailed and easy-to-use guidance?

Mike
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17-01-2019, 06:05
Post: #2
RE: Radio Paradise Lossless
I suspect you would have to add the flac stream URL as a custom one in MinimStreamer. I've had a look for it, but the links on the RP website aren't working.
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17-01-2019, 17:27 (This post was last modified: 17-01-2019 17:34 by Cebolla.)
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RE: Radio Paradise Lossless
Unfortunately, it's not as straightforward as obtaining the URL. The FLAC stream is provided using their own (custom) protocol, which has added optional features such as album art and the ability to skip to another track.

Having said that, perhaps it's not too tricky to implement - LMS has a 3rd party a plugin for it. Plus Simon does have a track record for sorting unusual FLAC radio - re the BBC's experimental lossless MPEG-DASH FLAC R3 stream from a couple of years ago (sadly no longer available)!
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17-01-2019, 17:46
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RE: Radio Paradise Lossless
(17-01-2019 17:27)Cebolla Wrote:  Unfortunately, it's not as straightforward as obtaining the URL. The FLAC stream is provided using their own (custom) protocol, which has added optional features such as album art and the ability to skip to another track.

Having said that, perhaps it's not too tricky to implement - LMS has a 3rd party a plugin for it. Plus Simon does have a track record for sorting unusual FLAC radio - re the BBC's experimental lossless MPEG-DASH FLAC R3 stream from a couple of years ago (sadly no longer available)!

Thanks for your assistance. Much appreciated!!

I did some research earlier today, and my conclusions correspond with yours. I am aware that LMS has a plug-in, so the implementation looks potentially viable, but well beyond my capabilities.

Let's hope Simon can resolve this!! If so, I'll jot only make a contribution, but increase the figure I had in mind. (And invest in a new Pi - the one I recently configured is for a close friend who is using one of my naim network players)
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17-01-2019, 17:52
Post: #5
RE: Radio Paradise Lossless
Yeah, I just got this reply from Bill:
"Unfortunately, though, FLAC doesn't work through a stream link. It requires software support at the receive end, so it only works on our web player & apps."
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18-01-2019, 15:53
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RE: Radio Paradise Lossless
(17-01-2019 17:27)Cebolla Wrote:  Unfortunately, it's not as straightforward as obtaining the URL. The FLAC stream is provided using their own (custom) protocol, which has added optional features such as album art and the ability to skip to another track.

Having said that, perhaps it's not too tricky to implement - LMS has a 3rd party a plugin for it. Plus Simon does have a track record for sorting unusual FLAC radio - re the BBC's experimental lossless MPEG-DASH FLAC R3 stream from a couple of years ago (sadly no longer available)!

I don't have any plans to add support for this nonstandard protocol that is used by only one radio station. The BBC R3 case was different in that it uses a standard protocol (MPEG-DASH) which could be used by other stations as well, although I'm not aware of any that are using it at the present time. A number of stations are using Ogg as a container to deliver lossless FLAC and this is supported by MinimStreamer.
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18-01-2019, 15:59
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RE: Radio Paradise Lossless
(18-01-2019 15:53)simoncn Wrote:  
(17-01-2019 17:27)Cebolla Wrote:  Unfortunately, it's not as straightforward as obtaining the URL. The FLAC stream is provided using their own (custom) protocol, which has added optional features such as album art and the ability to skip to another track.

Having said that, perhaps it's not too tricky to implement - LMS has a 3rd party a plugin for it. Plus Simon does have a track record for sorting unusual FLAC radio - re the BBC's experimental lossless MPEG-DASH FLAC R3 stream from a couple of years ago (sadly no longer available)!

I don't have any plans to add support for this nonstandard protocol that is used by only one radio station. The BBC R3 case was different in that it uses a standard protocol (MPEG-DASH) which could be used by other stations as well, although I'm not aware of any that are using it at the present time. A number of stations are using Ogg as a container to deliver lossless FLAC and this is supported by MinimStreamer.

Understood, and thanks.

I did feel that RP must be doing something out-of-the-way ordinary.!!!
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