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Further thoughts on booklets
02-08-2016, 18:45 (This post was last modified: 02-08-2016 20:46 by rompolompo.)
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Simon,

Heaving read all the posts regarding pdf booklets in this (and in BubbleUPnP) forum, I gathered that this topic will stay dormant for the near future. So, to my surprise, I stumbled upon an interesting discovery. I use Minim with my Synology NAS and BubbleUPnP to stream music from Tidal and Qobuz. Couple of nights ago, I was listening to an album via Qobuz and when I clicked on the album cover for “more info”, I noticed the following:

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As you can see, there is a way to click on the “digital booklet” link. This opens a web page with a link to the booklet in pdf format. It appears that BubbleUPnP will show data from the “description” tag. This led me thinking about the following…

1. Minim indexes any booklet.pdf files.
2. Minim exposes the file via a url - example (http://192.168.1.10/music/jazz/miles davis – kind of blue/booklet.pdf)
3. Minim will add to its DB a “description” tag along with the corresponding url for each album – This should not be saved to the actual audio file, just to the Minim DB.
4. Minim will skip the above in case a booklet.pdf is missing
5. In case that the “description tag” is already available, Minim can append the booklet.pdf link (see screenshot)

This is just a thought but it requires no effort from the BubbleUPnP people and does not contaminates the files with permanent URLs. Since Minim has great flexibility in manipulation tags, I believe adding the “description” tag will not break anything for current users.

Your thoughts?

P.S. I have attached the original screenshot.


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04-08-2016, 03:43
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I did some digging and apparently, this is documented in the Qobuz API. The booklet link along with other links is passed via the API and it is not served by the actual tag. Info available here:

http://static.qobuz.com/apps/api/Qobuz-A...s-V1.0.pdf

Look at page number 9. Qobuz calls this field "goodies". Unfortunalely, this is unique to the API and cannot be used with Minim. I added the description tag to some files and Bubble did not show the corresponding data as it did in the screenshot.

Oh, well. I was worth looking into.
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04-08-2016, 17:11
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RE: Further thoughts on booklets
In a similar vein, I have noticed that when listening to Radio Paradise (I'm sure lots of users for this great internet station) that the song titles and artists appear in the minimserver log files. Is there any way to transfer that information to the album art that's associated and shown on a streamer?

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27-08-2016, 21:41 (This post was last modified: 27-08-2016 22:12 by simoncn.)
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RE: Further thoughts on booklets
(02-08-2016 18:45)rompolompo Wrote:  Simon,

Heaving read all the posts regarding pdf booklets in this (and in BubbleUPnP) forum, I gathered that this topic will stay dormant for the near future. So, to my surprise, I stumbled upon an interesting discovery. I use Minim with my Synology NAS and BubbleUPnP to stream music from Tidal and Qobuz. Couple of nights ago, I was listening to an album via Qobuz and when I clicked on the album cover for “more info”, I noticed the following:

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As you can see, there is a way to click on the “digital booklet” link. This opens a web page with a link to the booklet in pdf format. It appears that BubbleUPnP will show data from the “description” tag. This led me thinking about the following…

1. Minim indexes any booklet.pdf files.
2. Minim exposes the file via a url - example (http://192.168.1.10/music/jazz/miles davis – kind of blue/booklet.pdf)
3. Minim will add to its DB a “description” tag along with the corresponding url for each album – This should not be saved to the actual audio file, just to the Minim DB.
4. Minim will skip the above in case a booklet.pdf is missing
5. In case that the “description tag” is already available, Minim can append the booklet.pdf link (see screenshot)

This is just a thought but it requires no effort from the BubbleUPnP people and does not contaminates the files with permanent URLs. Since Minim has great flexibility in manipulation tags, I believe adding the “description” tag will not break anything for current users.

Your thoughts?

P.S. I have attached the original screenshot.

Thanks for this suggestion. I have been investigating ways to do this and I have a prototype working. You would need to use tag formatting to create a "description" tag in the correct format for BubbleUPnP to show a link that opens the booklet. The tagFormat entry would look like this:

Comment.displayFormat={$*infoFileURI^<a href="^">Digital booklet</a><br><br>^$comment}
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28-08-2016, 00:57
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RE: Further thoughts on booklets
Simon,

I may have jumped the gun as I wrote this prior at looking at the Qobuz API documentation. It seams that BubbleUPnP uses the API to fetch the booklet's URL. I am not sure we can "trick" BubbleUPnP in the same way.
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28-08-2016, 09:15
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RE: Further thoughts on booklets
I have tried my prototype with BubbleUPnP and it is working. When I touch the link, BubbleUPnP opens the default browser with the URL for the PDF file. If the browser is Chrome, it downloads the file and asks the user whether to open it. Touching Open causes the file to be displayed.
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28-08-2016, 15:33
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Simon, How did you get BubbleUPnP to see the text as hypertext?
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28-08-2016, 16:45 (This post was last modified: 28-08-2016 16:46 by bubbleguuum.)
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(28-08-2016 15:33)rompolompo Wrote:  Simon, How did you get BubbleUPnP to see the text as hypertext?

BubbleUPnP recognize html (or rather a subset of it) for the description metadata, and makes arbitrary links clickable
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28-08-2016, 23:16
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RE: Further thoughts on booklets
(28-08-2016 16:45)bubbleguuum Wrote:  
(28-08-2016 15:33)rompolompo Wrote:  Simon, How did you get BubbleUPnP to see the text as hypertext?

BubbleUPnP recognize html (or rather a subset of it) for the description metadata, and makes arbitrary links clickable

Excellent! Thanks.
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