MS and Denon CEOL RCDN9

[mightyoakbob]

Anyone know if the Denon CEOL RCDN9 will work OK with MinimServer?

Thinking of getting one of these for a second system.

I have MinimServer installed on my Synology DS214+ NAS and use it with a Linn Akurate DS and it works great but will the Denon be happy?

Thanks.

Cheers,

Bob.

[simoncn]

I'm not sure about this model but I think there are people using MinimServer successfully with other Denon models.

[mightyoakbob]

(11-03-2016 20:32)simoncn Wrote:  I'm not sure about this model but I think there are people using MinimServer successfully with other Denon models.

Thanks for that.

That's encouraging but is it safe to buy? Anyone?

Bob.

[audio_elf]

I believe the Denon shares the same UPnP renderer as the Marantz M-CR510 which works fine.

[mightyoakbob]

(13-03-2016 00:28)audio_elf Wrote:  I believe the Denon shares the same UPnP renderer as the Marantz M-CR510 which works fine.

Thank you. That's even more encouraging.

Cheers,

Bob.

[Cebolla]

(13-03-2016 11:08)mightyoakbob Wrote:  

(13-03-2016 00:28)audio_elf Wrote:  I believe the Denon shares the same UPnP renderer as the Marantz M-CR510 which works fine.

Thank you. That's even more encouraging.

Cheers,

Bob.

As a standard UPnP/DLNA renderer you should also be able to use the BubbleUPnP Server helper software to provide OpenHome emulation for the Denon and therefore use the same OpenHome controller app for the Denon as you are for your Linn Akurate DS (eg the Linn Kazoo app). You should be able to install the BubbleUPnP Server on your Synology NAS:
http://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnp...gy_install

Gapless playback, renderer owned current playlist, TIDAL & Qobuz access should then be supported by the Denon as it would be by the Linn Akurate using the Linn Kazoo app.

[simoncn]

(14-03-2016 20:20)Cebolla Wrote:  As a standard UPnP/DLNA renderer you should also be able to use the BubbleUPnP Server helper software to provide OpenHome emulation for the Denon and therefore use the same OpenHome controller app for the Denon as you are for your Linn Akurate DS (eg the Linn Kazoo app). You should be able to install the BubbleUPnP Server on your Synology NAS:
http://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnp...gy_install

Gapless playback, renderer owned current playlist, TIDAL & Qobuz access should then be supported by the Denon as it would be by the Linn Akurate using the Linn Kazoo app.

Are you sure about gapless playback? I seem to recall that BubbleUPnP Server doesn't support this. Perhaps this has changed in a recent release.

[mightyoakbob]

(14-03-2016 20:20)Cebolla Wrote:  As a standard UPnP/DLNA renderer you should also be able to use the BubbleUPnP Server helper software to provide OpenHome emulation for the Denon and therefore use the same OpenHome controller app for the Denon as you are for your Linn Akurate DS (eg the Linn Kazoo app). You should be able to install the BubbleUPnP Server on your Synology NAS:
http://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnp...gy_install

Gapless playback, renderer owned current playlist, TIDAL & Qobuz access should then be supported by the Denon as it would be by the Linn Akurate using the Linn Kazoo app.

Wow. I knew nothing of this. Thanks for the heads up.

Can't quite get my head around it if I'm honest.

Cheers,

Bob.

[bubbleguuum]

(14-03-2016 22:16)simoncn Wrote:  Are you sure about gapless playback? I seem to recall that BubbleUPnP Server doesn't support this. Perhaps this has changed in a recent release.

BubbleUPnP Server supports gapless for the wrapped OH renderer, if the underlying UPnP AV renderer supports it. That is, if the SetNextAVTransportURI action is present and working (some renderers have a dummy action or SetNextAVTransportURI is just broken).

[Cebolla]

(14-03-2016 22:16)simoncn Wrote:  

(14-03-2016 20:20)Cebolla Wrote:  As a standard UPnP/DLNA renderer you should also be able to use the BubbleUPnP Server helper software to provide OpenHome emulation for the Denon and therefore use the same OpenHome controller app for the Denon as you are for your Linn Akurate DS (eg the Linn Kazoo app). You should be able to install the BubbleUPnP Server on your Synology NAS:
http://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnp...gy_install

Gapless playback, renderer owned current playlist, TIDAL & Qobuz access should then be supported by the Denon as it would be by the Linn Akurate using the Linn Kazoo app.

Are you sure about gapless playback? I seem to recall that BubbleUPnP Server doesn't support this. Perhaps this has changed in a recent release.

Ah, I had a feeling I might get pulled up on this as I don't normally leave things out, though in this case I felt justified as it would have overcomplicated my last post.

Ok, it depends what you mean by "BubbleUPnP Server doesn't support" gapless playback. BubbleUPnP Server certainly does provide its OpenHome renderer emulator with gapless playback support, so long as the standard UPnP/DLNA renderer, it's providing the emulator for, supports gapless via the SetNextAVTransporURI UPnP action. This gapless support has been in place since version 0.7 of BubbleUPnP Server, about 2 years. Of course what the BubbleUPnP Server doesn't do is provide gapless when it isn't supported by the standard UPnP/DLNA renderer in the first place.

If the SetNextAVTransporURI action is supported by the UPnP/DLNA renderer, the Gapless playback tickbox in the BubbleUPnP Server's Media Renderers setup page is enabled. The reason why gapless support by the BubbleUPnP Server is designed to be selectable is that not all UPnP/DLNA renderers behave themselves properly when implementing the SetNextAVTransporURI action and so may be better off not using it at all.

The other thing I passed over, was my (hopefully safe) assumption that the Denon CEOL RCD-N9 supports the SetNextAVTransporURI action, based on plenty of reliable evidence that it does. In fact all the Denon & similar Marantz UPnP/DLNA streamers are supposed to have supported SetNextAVTransporURI gapless for some time, going back to the Denon DNP-F109 (which came before the CEOL RCD-N9).