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Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
07-05-2014, 21:44
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Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
Apologies for posting this as I know the answer is in another post somewhere but I cannot find it.

When you transcode radio streams using MinimStreamer you get the transcoded stream prefixed with the [id] and then the original un-transcoded stream, so 2 entries.

I am sure I saw in a post by Simon that there was a notation to only show the transcoded stream.

Can somebody remind me what that was.

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08-05-2014, 08:33
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RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
(07-05-2014 21:44)Peter@57m Wrote:  Apologies for posting this as I know the answer is in another post somewhere but I cannot find it.

When you transcode radio streams using MinimStreamer you get the transcoded stream prefixed with the [id] and then the original un-transcoded stream, so 2 entries.

I am sure I saw in a post by Simon that there was a notation to only show the transcoded stream.

Can somebody remind me what that was.

To do this, use [*streamID] instead of [streamID].
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08-05-2014, 10:29
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RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
Thank you Simon, I now have a de-cluttered radio playlist Smile

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08-05-2014, 22:28
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RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
(08-05-2014 10:29)Peter@57m Wrote:  Thank you Simon, I now have a de-cluttered radio playlist Smile

I might make this the default in a future update. I have a feeling I might be the only person who finds this duplication useful.
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08-05-2014, 22:47
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RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
(08-05-2014 22:28)simoncn Wrote:  
(08-05-2014 10:29)Peter@57m Wrote:  Thank you Simon, I now have a de-cluttered radio playlist Smile

I might make this the default in a future update. I have a feeling I might be the only person who finds this duplication useful.

In fact I have two radio playlists, one with the [*streamID] notation and one with just [streamID] so I can choose to have both formats or just the transcoded one. I find I want to use the original stream sometimes as it normally shows the track info where the transcoded stream does not.

I think if you were to make showing just the transcoded stream the default then you could have the * notation show both so we still have a choice.

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08-05-2014, 22:56
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RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
(08-05-2014 22:47)Peter@57m Wrote:  In fact I have two radio playlists, one with the [*streamID] notation and one with just [streamID] so I can choose to have both formats or just the transcoded one. I find I want to use the original stream sometimes as it normally shows the track info where the transcoded stream does not.

I think if you were to make showing just the transcoded stream the default then you could have the * notation show both so we still have a choice.

If I make this change, I will support 3 options:

[streamID] ......show the transcoded stream only
[+streamID] ......show both streams
[*streamID] ......same as [streamID], kept for backward compatibility
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26-05-2014, 22:55 (This post was last modified: 27-05-2014 08:10 by Pastim.)
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RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
(08-05-2014 22:56)simoncn Wrote:  
(08-05-2014 22:47)Peter@57m Wrote:  In fact I have two radio playlists, one with the [*streamID] notation and one with just [streamID] so I can choose to have both formats or just the transcoded one. I find I want to use the original stream sometimes as it normally shows the track info where the transcoded stream does not.

I think if you were to make showing just the transcoded stream the default then you could have the * notation show both so we still have a choice.

If I make this change, I will support 3 options:

[streamID] ......show the transcoded stream only
[+streamID] ......show both streams
[*streamID] ......same as [streamID], kept for backward compatibility
I have so far tried foobar upnp and gupnp control points. Both insist on showing the name of the m3u file (VB) as the playlist and only one 'track' named 'desktop.mp3', not one or both IDs. I have tried with and without the '+'. What am I doing wrong?

MY VB.m3u contains:
Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,[+Squeezelite] Squeezelite Music
http://192.168.1.2:8080/desktop.mp3

(and yes, I do have a weird plan of getting squeezelite to talk to my UPnP renderers, currently just mp3 to find out if it will work).
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27-05-2014, 09:57
Post: #8
RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
(26-05-2014 22:55)Pastim Wrote:  I have so far tried foobar upnp and gupnp control points. Both insist on showing the name of the m3u file (VB) as the playlist and only one 'track' named 'desktop.mp3', not one or both IDs. I have tried with and without the '+'. What am I doing wrong?

MY VB.m3u contains:
Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,[+Squeezelite] Squeezelite Music
http://192.168.1.2:8080/desktop.mp3

(and yes, I do have a weird plan of getting squeezelite to talk to my UPnP renderers, currently just mp3 to find out if it will work).

The '+' prefix isn't supported yet. This was a proposal for a possible future change.

The playlist name is always the name of the .m3u file. The item (track) name should be taken from the #EXTINF line. Did you do a Rescan after editing the .m3u file?

If you just want to play a .mp3 file from a URL without transcoding, you don't need the streamID. You can use the following .m3u file:

Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,Squeezelite Music
http://192.168.1.2:8080/desktop.mp3
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27-05-2014, 10:16
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RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
(27-05-2014 09:57)simoncn Wrote:  
(26-05-2014 22:55)Pastim Wrote:  I have so far tried foobar upnp and gupnp control points. Both insist on showing the name of the m3u file (VB) as the playlist and only one 'track' named 'desktop.mp3', not one or both IDs. I have tried with and without the '+'. What am I doing wrong?

MY VB.m3u contains:
Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,[+Squeezelite] Squeezelite Music
http://192.168.1.2:8080/desktop.mp3

(and yes, I do have a weird plan of getting squeezelite to talk to my UPnP renderers, currently just mp3 to find out if it will work).

The '+' prefix isn't supported yet. This was a proposal for a possible future change.

The playlist name is always the name of the .m3u file. The item (track) name should be taken from the #EXTINF line. Did you do a Rescan after editing the .m3u file?

If you just want to play a .mp3 file from a URL without transcoding, you don't need the streamID. You can use the following .m3u file:

Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,Squeezelite Music
http://192.168.1.2:8080/desktop.mp3
Yes, I did rescan (more than once). None of my CPs nor renderers ever see more than 'desktop.mp3'. MinimStreamer is definitely installed (0.4) and I can see the converter, record and transcode fields on the System tab.

I may well want to transcode once I can get it all working. I don't want mp3, but it's the only stream I can seem to get to work out of my slightly complex 'cunning plan' thus far.

If and when I do get a transcode to work I'm a little puzzled as to what extension to use on the feed. If my http feed is, say, providing flac, and I want wav out, what should I call the feed? I have a feeling that my renderers look at the extension to determine the type, but will MinimStreamer be confused if I use a wav extension on the initial feed?
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27-05-2014, 11:11
Post: #10
RE: Removing "duplicate" original and transcoded streams
(27-05-2014 10:16)Pastim Wrote:  Yes, I did rescan (more than once). None of my CPs nor renderers ever see more than 'desktop.mp3'. MinimStreamer is definitely installed (0.4) and I can see the converter, record and transcode fields on the System tab.

Please try using the attached file, exactly "as is". This file is working for me.

Quote:I may well want to transcode once I can get it all working. I don't want mp3, but it's the only stream I can seem to get to work out of my slightly complex 'cunning plan' thus far.

If and when I do get a transcode to work I'm a little puzzled as to what extension to use on the feed. If my http feed is, say, providing flac, and I want wav out, what should I call the feed? I have a feeling that my renderers look at the extension to determine the type, but will MinimStreamer be confused if I use a wav extension on the initial feed?

This depends on the renderer and the combination of original and transcoded formats that you are using. The specific case you have mentioned won't work because MinimStreamer doesn't transcode FLAC network streams. See this section for a list of network streams that MinimStreamer can transcode.


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