Index Artwork

[Peter StreamMagic]

I think it would be nice that MinimServer could handle subfolders in the IndexArtist folder e.g. genrexxxxx.jpg , artistyyyyy.jpg. I have artist that also compose or conduct and like to show different pictures for the same person.

[entdgc]

Just thought I would share my setup. Nothing special but it serves me well...

Top level shown in Kazoo on Mac
   
   
   
   

[DavidHB]

Once again, I'm using this older thread rather than starting a new one. Before I get to my main point, I can follow up on the previous post (dated last July) by entdgc.

At some point Linn Kazoo was updated to show the top level menu as an icon grid, in the Windows and Android versions as well as in the Mac OS version for which entdgc provided the screenshot. This is IMO a significant improvement, as it givers the user a much better first impression of the app. It almost makes me want to use Kazoo on a regular basis . Hopefully BubbleDS/UPnP will follow suit.

My main point is to make a couple of feature requests relating to Index Artwork. Firstly, I think that MinimServer only searches the indexArtwork folder itself and not its subfolders. This could mean that indexArtwork could get very unwieldy, with (potentially) hundreds of image files in the same folder. Would it be possible for the search to include subfolders?

The other point relates to the section on Index Artwork in the User Guide. I found out by trial and error that the image file name has to be the same as the sort value, at least when using the [tag]/[tag]Sort method of displaying pages. Thus, if the entry is sorted, say, using ComposerSort in surname order ("Bach, Johann Sebastian"), but the display name is shown, using Composer, with first name or initials first ("Johann Sebastian Bach"), the image file name has to be "Bach, Johann Sebastian.jpg". I don't use the reverseName tag option, so I am not sure what the rule is in that case. But it would be helpful if the User Guide could clarify which file name is to be used in instances of this kind.

David

[Peter StreamMagic]

(18-12-2022 18:49)DavidHB Wrote:  At some point Linn Kazoo was updated to show the top level menu as an icon grid, in the Windows and Android versions as well as in the Mac OS version for which entdgc provided the screenshot. This is IMO a significant improvement, as it givers the user a much better first impression of the app.

Thanks David, I never noticed Kazoo now has grid mode at top level.
   
Much better!

Peter

[simoncn]

(17-06-2022 11:23)paultaylor Wrote:  I have Record Label set up as an index, and indexArtwork set to folder. One slight issue I noticed was that when browsing Record Label even though I had no images for record labels I was seeing images for a handful, this is because they shared a name with a band e.g BIS

https://musicbrainz.org/label/447147a3-c...1254234110
https://musicbrainz.org/artist/03215924-...0866bed680

So it would be good if you could (optionally) restrict images to serve a particular index, one idea would be under indexArtwork folder to allow a folder matching an index name to be specified, and then images for that index put there.

e.g

indexArtwork
indexArtwork/bis.jpg
indexArtwork/Label/bis.jpg

would mean that the first bis.jpg was available for al indexes (so could continue to serve multiple indexes e.g Artist/Album Artist) but would not be used for Label index, that would use the second bis.jpg

This feature is now implemented (exactly as you suggested) in MinimServer update 219.

[simoncn]

(18-12-2022 18:49)DavidHB Wrote:  Firstly, I think that MinimServer only searches the indexArtwork folder itself and not its subfolders. This could mean that indexArtwork could get very unwieldy, with (potentially) hundreds of image files in the same folder. Would it be possible for the search to include subfolders?

There is a new feature in MinimServer update 219 that uses subfolders to enable the use of multiple images for the same tag value (see post #25). Because subfolders are now used for this purpose, it would be difficult to also use subfolders as you have suggested.

Quote:The other point relates to the section on Index Artwork in the User Guide. I found out by trial and error that the image file name has to be the same as the sort value, at least when using the [tag]/[tag]Sort method of displaying pages. Thus, if the entry is sorted, say, using ComposerSort in surname order ("Bach, Johann Sebastian"), but the display name is shown, using Composer, with first name or initials first ("Johann Sebastian Bach"), the image file name has to be "Bach, Johann Sebastian.jpg". I don't use the reverseName tag option, so I am not sure what the rule is in that case. But it would be helpful if the User Guide could clarify which file name is to be used in instances of this kind.

I am surprised to hear this. I would expect the index display value to be used, not the index sort value. I will investigate and post back here when I have more information.

[simoncn]

(18-12-2022 22:54)simoncn Wrote:  There is a new feature in MinimServer update 219 that uses subfolders to enable the use of multiple images for the same tag value (see post #25). Because subfolders are now used for this purpose, it would be difficult to also use subfolders as you have suggested.

Having thought about this, I think there is a solution that satisfies both requirements. The new feature for indexTags customization (Label, Artist, etc.) could search folders underneath an indexTags subfolder (for example, indexArtwork/indexTags/Label/BIS.jpg). This would enable the user to create other other folders under the indexArtwork folder to organise their artwork files.

[Peter StreamMagic]

(18-12-2022 22:54)simoncn Wrote:  Having thought about this, I think there is a solution that satisfies both requirements. The new feature for indexTags customization (Label, Artist, etc.) could search folders underneath an indexTags subfolder (for example, indexArtwork/indexTags/Label/BIS.jpg). This would enable the user to create other other folders under the indexArtwork folder to organise their artwork files.

My IndexArtwork folder was getting rather big and therefore a bit muddled.
I now have sub-Folders for Composer,Conductor, Orchestra and Genre (starting with Genre, puzzling which pictures (style) to add), things look much better organized now.

[DavidHB]

(18-12-2022 22:54)simoncn Wrote:  I am surprised to hear this. I would expect the index display value to be used, not the index sort value. I will investigate and post back here when I have more information.

When you are surprised, I think that it is always a good idea to go back and check for errors on my part . This I have now done, and can definitely confirm that the 'natural' format does not work on my system, but the 'name reversed' format, from ComposerSort, does work.

(18-12-2022 22:54)simoncn Wrote:  There is a new feature in MinimServer update 219 that uses subfolders to enable the use of multiple images for the same tag value (see post #25). Because subfolders are now used for this purpose, it would be difficult to also use subfolders as you have suggested.

Thank you for this information

(19-12-2022 09:39)simoncn Wrote:  Having thought about this, I think there is a solution that satisfies both requirements. The new feature for indexTags customization (Label, Artist, etc.) could search folders underneath an indexTags subfolder (for example, indexArtwork/indexTags/Label/BIS.jpg). This would enable the user to create other other folders under the indexArtwork folder to organise their artwork files.

So, in my use case, I would use the folder Path indexArtwork/indexTags/ComposerSort. Is that correct? I know I could try it myself, but I am conscious that you are doing investigations of your own, which may affect things.

Many thanks, as ever, for your help on this.

David

[gyszabolcs]

Hi to all!

I would say thank you for this tip to the thread starter, and I would share my experience. If you save your thumbnail images as png with transparent background, it gives cleaner look (in my opinion) than white squares on dark user interface. It works well in apps as Linn Kazoo or Linn. Unfortunately, it seems, Lumin app can't handle transparency, but I think it will works well with every other control point apps what can handle png transparency.

    Kazoo

    Linn

    Lumin