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Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
21-02-2021, 14:51
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Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
I am using the Minim server on a Melco N 100. Having ripped a large number of CD's the meta data for a small number could not be found on the internet. I was able to enter the Melco library via my network and manually enter the CD title and song titles etc. Having re-checked, these changes have definitely been accepted. I have updated the library several times. However, the minim server which I am accessing via an Iphone Naim app for the Naim ND5XS will not show these manually entered titles. Consequently I have no way at all of playing these CDs. Please help to resolve this problem.
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21-02-2021, 15:07
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RE: Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
(21-02-2021 14:51)Jeremy Allen Wrote:  I am using the Minim server on a Melco N 100. Having ripped a large number of CD's the meta data for a small number could not be found on the internet. I was able to enter the Melco library via my network and manually enter the CD title and song titles etc. Having re-checked, these changes have definitely been accepted. I have updated the library several times. However, the minim server which I am accessing via an Iphone Naim app for the Naim ND5XS will not show these manually entered titles. Consequently I have no way at all of playing these CDs. Please help to resolve this problem.

Have you performed a Minimserver rescan?

Rescanning your library after adding or removing music

To rescan your library after adding or removing music, do the following:
  1. From the Melco front panel main menu, select Settings > Music Database > Rescan Songs and Playlists
  2. While the rescan is in progress, MinimServer is not visible to UPnP control points. If you are playing music from MinimServer when the rescan starts, the music will continue to play during the rescan.
  3. When the display shows OK, the rescan has started but may take some time to complete. You can check the current status of MinimServer (see above) to see when the rescan has completed.


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21-02-2021, 15:16
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RE: Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
(21-02-2021 15:07)Alandbush Wrote:  
(21-02-2021 14:51)Jeremy Allen Wrote:  I am using the Minim server on a Melco N 100. Having ripped a large number of CD's the meta data for a small number could not be found on the internet. I was able to enter the Melco library via my network and manually enter the CD title and song titles etc. Having re-checked, these changes have definitely been accepted. I have updated the library several times. However, the minim server which I am accessing via an Iphone Naim app for the Naim ND5XS will not show these manually entered titles. Consequently I have no way at all of playing these CDs. Please help to resolve this problem.

Have you performed a Minimserver rescan?

Rescanning your library after adding or removing music

To rescan your library after adding or removing music, do the following:
  1. From the Melco front panel main menu, select Settings > Music Database > Rescan Songs and Playlists
  2. While the rescan is in progress, MinimServer is not visible to UPnP control points. If you are playing music from MinimServer when the rescan starts, the music will continue to play during the rescan.
  3. When the display shows OK, the rescan has started but may take some time to complete. You can check the current status of MinimServer (see above) to see when the rescan has completed.


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21-02-2021, 15:17
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RE: Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
(21-02-2021 15:07)Alandbush Wrote:  
(21-02-2021 14:51)Jeremy Allen Wrote:  I am using the Minim server on a Melco N 100. Having ripped a large number of CD's the meta data for a small number could not be found on the internet. I was able to enter the Melco library via my network and manually enter the CD title and song titles etc. Having re-checked, these changes have definitely been accepted. I have updated the library several times. However, the minim server which I am accessing via an Iphone Naim app for the Naim ND5XS will not show these manually entered titles. Consequently I have no way at all of playing these CDs. Please help to resolve this problem.

Have you performed a Minimserver rescan?

Rescanning your library after adding or removing music

I have done the rescan several times

I have done the rescan serveral time

To rescan your library after adding or removing music, do the following:
  1. From the Melco front panel main menu, select Settings > Music Database > Rescan Songs and Playlists
  2. While the rescan is in progress, MinimServer is not visible to UPnP control points. If you are playing music from MinimServer when the rescan starts, the music will continue to play during the rescan.
  3. When the display shows OK, the rescan has started but may take some time to complete. You can check the current status of MinimServer (see above) to see when the rescan has completed.


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21-02-2021, 16:24 (This post was last modified: 21-02-2021 16:32 by Alandbush.)
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RE: Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
Hmm, in that case, the tag changes you performed may not have changed the file modification date.
MinimServer will only detect changes if this date changes between rescans.

MinimServer has a configuration setting which can override this requirement.
However, I don't think it is available through the Melco menu screen, only through MinimWatch.

The Melco quickstart link, from an earlier post, contains a section describing how to download, install and run MinimWatch.

The property to change is startupScan setting it to Full

edit - after the rescan, set the property setting back to False

If this resolves the issue, you should check the tagging program to see if you can get it to change the file modification dates when tags are updated.
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21-02-2021, 18:09
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RE: Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
(21-02-2021 16:24)Alandbush Wrote:  Hmm, in that case, the tag changes you performed may not have changed the file modification date.
MinimServer will only detect changes if this date changes between rescans.

MinimServer has a configuration setting which can override this requirement.
However, I don't think it is available through the Melco menu screen, only through MinimWatch.

The Melco quickstart link, from an earlier post, contains a section describing how to download, install and run MinimWatch.

The property to change is startupScan setting it to Full

edit - after the rescan, set the property setting back to False

If this resolves the issue, you should check the tagging program to see if you can get it to change the file modification dates when tags are updated.

OK, thank you for your prompt help. I'll try that. Jeremy
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22-02-2021, 13:59
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RE: Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
If on Melco you can use Manual Edit feature of SongKong and that will update the file modification date, have you tried using SongKong to modify the titles ?
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22-02-2021, 15:23
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RE: Manually entered CD data not picked up by minim server
(22-02-2021 13:59)paultaylor Wrote:  If on Melco you can use Manual Edit feature of SongKong and that will update the file modification date, have you tried using SongKong to modify the titles ?

Many thanks indeed for your reply Paul. I've just been into Song Kong and can see how to do that. Hopefully I should be able to fix my issue now.

thanks again.

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