Minimwatch stopped working immediately as scanning was completed

[echable]

PC is connected via 5ghz wifi, NAS by cable.

I uninstalled all Java, and reinstalled 64-bit offline installer.

I then uninstalled and reinstalled Minimwatch. The icon is now not red, but grey.

In options - properties - oh.subnet I have entered 255.255.255.0.

According to the network settings on the NAS, that is the subnet my NAS is on. I also double-checked with ipconfig /all.

Does Minimwatch work with either of the 32 bit or 64 bit Java install ?

I have tried completely turning of absolutely everything of firewall software, anti-virus, VPN etc. Minimwatch still doesn't turn green. Funny thing is, when I first installed it, it was also green for a few hours, before suddenly turning grey again.

My computer is connected to a VPN. I suppose this may complicate things ?

[echable]

Using "refresh" on the Minimwatch icon it still stays grey.

I've checked the multicast / IGPM snooping stuff on my router and it is all the way Minimserver website says it should be.

(24-11-2019 19:42)Alandbush Wrote:  

(24-11-2019 19:00)echable Wrote:  415PLAY Synology

Yes, http://x.x.x.x:9790 works, it says "Starting" while scanning and "Running" when completed IIRC. Entering that status page has no effect on whether Miminwatch is green or not.

Then, it seems, you have a course of action to take as per the following.

(24-11-2019 17:31)simoncn Wrote:  If you see the page but the icon stays grey, it is probably a multicast discovery issue with your network (see this section)

The only setting that refers to anything regarding "multicast" is a "Multicast Rate (Mbps)". It has options like "ODFM 6" and "CCK 11". There is no "disable".

[simoncn]

The value 255.255.255.0 is not the correct subnet value. It is a subnet mask, which is not the same thing.

From what you have said about the icon being green before changing to grey and also abut your computer being connected to a VPN, it is very likely that entering the correct subnet value in MinimWatch will fix the problem.

MinimWatch uses ohNet for UPnP communication with MinimServer. ohNet has a limitation that it can only communicate on a single subnet. If more than one subnet is available, ohNet picks a subnet at random. If it happens to pick the local subnet that includes your NAS, you will get the green icon. If it happens to pick the remote subnet for your VPN, you will get the grey icon. By entering a specific subnet in the ohnet.subnet property, you are preventing this random choice and ensuring that MinimWatch picks the correct subnet every time.

What is the local IP address of your NAS? The correct subnet value will be similar to this address but with the last number changed to 0. For example, if the local IP address of your NAS is 192.168.1.77, the correct subnet value to enter in MinimWatch would be 192.168.1.0.

MinimWatch works with both 32-bit and 64-bit Java.

[echable]

(09-12-2019 09:39)simoncn Wrote:  The value 255.255.255.0 is not the correct subnet value. It is a subnet mask, which is not the same thing.

From what you have said about the icon being green before changing to grey and also abut your computer being connected to a VPN, it is very likely that entering the correct subnet value in MinimWatch will fix the problem.

MinimWatch uses ohNet for UPnP communication with MinimServer. ohNet has a limitation that it can only communicate on a single subnet. If more than one subnet is available, ohNet picks a subnet at random. If it happens to pick the local subnet that includes your NAS, you will get the green icon. If it happens to pick the remote subnet for your VPN, you will get the grey icon. By entering a specific subnet in the ohnet.subnet property, you are preventing this random choice and ensuring that MinimWatch picks the correct subnet every time.

What is the local IP address of your NAS? The correct subnet value will be similar to this address but with the last number changed to 0. For example, if the local IP address of your NAS is 192.168.1.77, the correct subnet value to enter in MinimWatch would be 192.168.1.0.

MinimWatch works with both 32-bit and 64-bit Java.

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling both two Javas and Minimwatch. I've realised the correct value for the property in question is not the same as the subnet mask. The very short period Minimwatch was actually green it had 192.168.0.1 written there.

Now, however, I've reinstalled Minimwatch a thousand times. and trying to do it now proceeds as normal through the install process, but the resulting program never launches. How would I go about fixing a problem like that ? I've used both Iobit Uninstaller, which is more thorough, and its own uninstall interface.

[simoncn]

It sounds like you should be using 192.168.0.0 as your ohnet.subnet value.

Are there any error messages in either of these files?

C:\Users\your-user-name\AppData\Roaming\MinimWatch\data\minimserver.log
C:\Users\your-user-name\AppData\Roaming\MinimWatch\data\minimserver-out.log

The AppData folder is hidden by default in Windows Explorer. To view this folder, you can type the full path into the Explorer address bar.

[echable]

(09-12-2019 20:35)simoncn Wrote:  It sounds like you should be using 192.168.0.0 as your ohnet.subnet value.

Are there any error messages in either of these files?

C:\Users\your-user-name\AppData\Roaming\MinimWatch\data\minimserver.log
C:\Users\your-user-name\AppData\Roaming\MinimWatch\data\minimserver-out.log

The AppData folder is hidden by default in Windows Explorer. To view this folder, you can type the full path into the Explorer address bar.

I have "on" showing of any kind of hidden files, including system files. But I still tried to paste the full path into the address bar, and it appears the specific Minimwatch directory is not there in \Roamin. I tried another Minimwatch install, and it completed seemingly successfully, with Iobit Uninstaller presenting a pop-up saying this many files had been installed, this many registry entries etc. But those folders you refer to don't exist.

[simoncn]

Please try doing this one step at a time.

1) Type this into the Explorer address bar: C:\Users\your-user-name\AppData

2) You should see the subfolders Local, LocalLow and Roaming

3) Double-click on Roaming

4) You should see a long list of folders. MinimWatch should be there, just below Microsoft.

5) Double-click on MinimWatch

6) You should see the subfolders data, libext and tmp

7) Double-click on data

8) The files in this folder should include minimwatch.log. (Note: the filenames that I posted in my previous email were not correct.)

9) If the minimwatch.log file exists, please copy and paste its contents here.

10) If any of the previous steps did not produce the results that I have described, please post the details.

[echable]

Yes, I have tried this. The folder is not there.

I have also tried reinstalling several times. The desktop icon appears, but program does not start.

Here is the log from Iobit Uninstaller recording the installation of Minimwatch, it shows there is no folder called Minimwatch in C:\Users\[your-user-name]\AppDataMiniwatch\Roaming.

Program Information

Display name: MinimWatch 0.8.5.3
Publisher: MinimServer
Version: 0.8.5.3
Registry entries: 29
Files: 20
Total size: 2.8 MB
Install date: 11/12/2019 22:05:41
Install package: C:\Users\ekvms\Downloads\MinimWatch-0.8.5.3-install.exe
Location: C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\
Installation duration: 19 seconds


Registry entries

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.j​ar\OpenWithProgids|Value|jarfile
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Notifications\Data|Value|418A073AA3BC3475
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|DisplayIcon
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|DisplayName
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|DisplayVersion
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|EstimatedSize
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|HelpLink
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|Inno Setup: App Path
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|Inno Setup: Deselected Tasks
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|Inno Setup: Icon Group
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|Inno Setup: Language
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|Inno Setup: Selected Tasks
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|Inno Setup: Setup Version
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|Inno Setup: User
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|InstallDate
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|InstallLocation
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|MajorVersion
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|MinorVersion
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|NoModify
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|NoRepair
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|Publisher
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|QuietUninstallString
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|UninstallString
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|URLInfoAbout
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1|Value|URLUpdateInfo
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D2E2184C​-DF0B-425B-AE8A-06AA9A9B2995}_is1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-2768956030-2512689840-173203443-1001|Value|\Device\HarddiskVolume3\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_231\bin\javaw.exe
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-2768956030-2512689840-173203443-1001|Value|\Device\HarddiskVolume3\Users\ekvms\AppData\Local\Temp\is-UIJBT.tmp\MinimWatch-0.8.5.3-install.tmp
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\bam\State\UserSettings\S-1-5-21-2768956030-2512689840-173203443-1001|Value|\Device\HarddiskVolume3\Users\ekvms\AppData\Local\Temp\is-VOESQ.tmp\MinimWatch-0.8.5.3-install.tmp


Files

C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\bin\mscript.cmd
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\bin\startc.cmd
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\jminim-0.7.202.jar
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\minim.jar
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\minimlaunch$-0.7.200.jar
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\minimscript$-0.8.300.jar
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\minimui-0.8.300.jar
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\minimwatch.ico
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\minimwatch-0.8.300.jar
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\minimwatch-0.8.5.3.jmpkg
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\mscript.jar
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\mwatch.jar
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\lib\ohnet(windows)-1.17.2776.1.zip
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\LICENSE.txt
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\MinimWatch.lnk
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\unins000.dat
C:\Program Files\MinimWatch\unins000.exe
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\MinimServer\MinimWatch.lnk
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\MinimServer\Uninstall MinimWatch.lnk
C:\Users\Public\Desktop\MinimWatch.lnk

(10-12-2019 10:05)simoncn Wrote:  Please try doing this one step at a time.

1) Type this into the Explorer address bar: C:\Users\your-user-name\AppData

2) You should see the subfolders Local, LocalLow and Roaming

3) Double-click on Roaming

4) You should see a long list of folders. MinimWatch should be there, just below Microsoft.

5) Double-click on MinimWatch

6) You should see the subfolders data, libext and tmp

7) Double-click on data

8) The files in this folder should include minimwatch.log. (Note: the filenames that I posted in my previous email were not correct.)

9) If the minimwatch.log file exists, please copy and paste its contents here.

10) If any of the previous steps did not produce the results that I have described, please post the details.

[simoncn]

This log that you posted from Iobit Uninstaller does not show any information about what is or is not in the folder C:\Users\ekvms\AppData\Roaming.

Please follow the steps 1) to 8) that I posted previously. Which of these steps does not show what I described? I cannot help you without having this information.

[echable]

(11-12-2019 22:46)simoncn Wrote:  This log that you posted from Iobit Uninstaller does not show any information about what is or is not in the folder C:\Users\ekvms\AppData\Roaming.

Please follow the steps 1) to 8) that I posted previously. Which of these steps does not show what I described? I cannot help you without having this information.

From step 4, the Minimserver folder is not present in the Roamin folder.