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09-06-2025, 23:08 (This post was last modified: 09-06-2025 23:40 by simbun.)
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(09-06-2025 21:26)simoncn Wrote:  What is the other solution that you mentioned in your post?
It's an OpenSubsonic solution using Symfonium as the control point.

(09-06-2025 21:26)simoncn Wrote:  The rules used by MinimServer have been refined over many years with feedback from users to arrive at the current set of rules which seem to be working well. I am reluctant to make any change to these rules that would produce different results with the tagging and embedding schemes of current users.
I was only suggesting that the artwork rules would/should only consider FRONT images (as that's how they're being used in MinimServer), but I appreciate that some users/software may have assigned them incorrectly.
This assumes of course that the library you use offers this level of detail.

(09-06-2025 21:26)simoncn Wrote:  What exactly do you mean by FRONT and DISC? Is FRONT the ID3v2 APIC picture type (front cover = 3, etc.) or is it the value of the APIC description string? There is no APIC picture type for DISC, so I presume this would be a description string.
The Vorbis documentation calls it 'Media label' (type = 6) and ffprobe reports:

Code:
Stream #0:2: Video: mjpeg (Progressive), yuvj444p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 200x200 [SAR 150:150 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc (attached pic)
    Metadata:
      comment         : Media (e.g. label side of CD)


(09-06-2025 21:26)simoncn Wrote:  Please clarify. Also, how would FRONT and DISC be encoded in the COVR atom in an Apple MP4/M4A file?
I have no knowledge of anything apple but I converted a flac with embedded FRONT and MEDIA to mp3 and m4a and whilst foobar and Mp3tag recognise both images ffprobe only reports a single image/stream from the m4a:

Code:
Stream #0:1: Video: mjpeg (Progressive), yuvj444p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 200x200 [SAR 150:150 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc (attached pic)

.zip  samples.zip (Size: 14.45 KB / Downloads: 1)


(09-06-2025 21:26)simoncn Wrote:  What UPnP Search query would you like to return a different result in this case?
I was asking that an album search of 'Please Please Me' would also return any albums that contained a matching DiscSubtitle.

Currently when I search for 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' only the original release is returned, the proposed functionality would return the albums:
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The Beatles In Mono
The Beatles

Obviously it would be nice if when clicking 'The Beatles in Mono' only the 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' DiscSubtitle(s) were returned, but I never thought that would be possible.

(09-06-2025 21:26)simoncn Wrote:  Some time ago the concept of album groups was discussed (see this post). This might be a better way to handle The Beatles in Mono (tagged as an album group) and Please Please Me (tagged as an album). Would adding this feature provide a solution for your request?
That is what I've been waiting for but it's still not perfect:
  • boxsets contain discs that were never albums and that I wouldn't really want to see outside of the box e.g. extras
  • it's not a standard
I would find that solution perfect for grouping series e.g. Now That's What I Call Music.
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Discsubtitle handling - simbun - 07-06-2025, 17:48
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simoncn - 09-06-2025, 21:26
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simbun - 09-06-2025 23:08
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simoncn - 11-06-2025, 21:55
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simoncn - 14-06-2025, 07:15
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simbun - 14-06-2025, 10:50
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simoncn - 14-06-2025, 13:01
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simbun - 14-06-2025, 13:34
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simoncn - 10-09-2025, 15:51
RE: Discsubtitle handling - simbun - 12-09-2025, 13:38

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