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(15-05-2013 11:02)hvaleton Wrote:  Hi Simon,

Yes, I read that you use a Composition tag to group tracks into one composition, wheras I group the movements of a symphony in an album.

It's much more important to populate the Group tag than the Composition tag. I'll take a look at the documentation to see if this needs clarifying.

If you populate the Group tag, MinimServer will send "album" XML data to the control point that's equivalent to what you're getting at the moment. This should mean you'll continue to see the same thing in Kinsky, Chorus or Sonos. (I don't have any Sonos equipment, so I haven't been able to try this with Sonos.)

The advantage of doing this is that you can easily find, select and play an entire album (CD) in its original order. You can also easily find, select and play any multi-movement musical work within the album.

The Compostion tag is optional, and I'd suggest you start without this and maybe add it later if you need the additional indexing that it provides.

Quote: I also put a shortened list of the performers and sometimes also the year of recording in the Album tag to be able to see the difference between various performances of the same symphony.
I also (redundantly) put the name of the composer in the Album tag, because otherwise the name of the composer would get lost in the presentation of track info in alle access points I have used so far.

You can do all this with the Group tag. Alternatively, you can use the tagFormat property to include this additional information in the "album" XML data that MinimServer sends to the control point. This is an alternative to manually copying this information into the Album or Group tag.

Quote: For serious listening I have a Linn DS Akurate (using Kinsky or Chorus on my iPad) and for less serious listening in the remainder of the house I have three Sonos zones. Sonos soes not, and probably never will show the Composer tag.
Your method seems to have some advantages but I'll have to give this a lot of thought before I re-tag my entire collection of some 9000 cd's.
What do you put in the Composition tag? Just, say, "Symphony No.2 in E flat major"? In that case it could sometimes probably be used for more than one composer, so that one would absolutely need the composer tag to get a unique combination And what about the performers?

This comes down to your personal preference. If you're browsing by index, it isn't necessary to add composer or performer information to the Group or Composition tag, because you can use the Composer or Performer/Artist indexes in combination with the Group or Composition index to resolve any ambiguity in the Composition or Group value. If you're browsing a flat list of Groups or Compositions, you might find it useful to have some additional information for disambiguation.

Quote:Very importantly: will this Compsoition tag be shown in any access point app in the "now playing" section? I personally doubt it. And that would make the Composition tag only usable in the search process, correct?
Please enlighten me!

Thanks in advance,
Hans

An advantage of using the Group tag for your musical works is that you'll see the Group value in the "Now Playing" section automatically. You can also use the displayFormat setting in the tagFormat property to customize the Now Playing section with any tags in your files.
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Sort by Filename - sbilotta - 28-04-2013, 07:34
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RE: Sort by Filename - sbilotta - 12-05-2013, 15:37
RE: Sort by Filename - simoncn - 12-05-2013, 16:40
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RE: Sort by Filename - simoncn - 12-05-2013, 18:31
RE: Sort by Filename - hvaleton - 14-05-2013, 19:38
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RE: Sort by Filename - hvaleton - 14-05-2013, 20:15
RE: Sort by Filename - sbilotta - 14-05-2013, 21:10
RE: Sort by Filename - simoncn - 14-05-2013, 22:14
RE: Sort by Filename - hvaleton - 15-05-2013, 11:02
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RE: Sort by Filename - hvaleton - 16-05-2013, 15:38
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