Feature suggestion: customise abum, title inside groups

[Oliviander]

(27-04-2013 12:45)simoncn Wrote:  It isn't impossible, but each extra option adds complexity (in the implementation and in the documentation). For example, this option would also need to change the way albumArtist is computed for the tracks in the group (see the description in my previous post). I'm not convinced that the benefit from adding this option is worth the added complexity.

Is there some way you could use DISCSUBTITLE to get what you want? This provides a structure for viewing the contents of an album without affecting what's sent to the control point in DIDL-Lite.

Hi Simon
ok if this is complex - skip it, it is only a very minor issue for my ideas
(and maybe it won't be an issue anymore in some time).
When I will feel still the way that this would be a good idea,
I'll be back with it when MinS has reached 1.0

I don't see Discsubtitling in this case being helpful,
but I do see great potential in using Discsubtitle in many more
ways if the seperation it makes wouldn't actually be limited to the physical discs.
Especially I would see very good use in my Pop Collection
if this could be used to separate the Original Album Titles
from the bonus titles of an Album.
It is not very helpful to make 2 groups for that
as you won't select tracks that way but, as a reminder
to see where the bonus titles begin
Discsubtitle could be a great feature for this if it could be used
independently from the discnumbers.

I just tried to alias such a seperation to the DISCNUMBER TAG
to get this result but with no luck even when making it 1,2,3,4
like real discnumbers and using discsubtitles accordingly.

Obviously I don't fully understand how this disc seperation
actually works. (Maybe I should begin with the Tracknumbers
each time at 1 to get any effect.)

Additionally I have discovered a presumably unwanted effect of
the Multidisc handling. (at least in my eyes):

In one of my MinS Instances I want to do strictly a work search
(as described in a previous post) and therefore i have aliased:
Work:Album

From your Description of the multidisc beahviour in the handbook
I suspected that this would work easily - and it does
nearly.

Here are my example(s)

First I have a Album which originally consists of 2 discs
but contains 5 Works: the first 2 on Disc 1 the other 3 on Disc 2
After aliasing Work:Album (and Album to something else to avoid conflicts)
MinS shows a list of 5 Albums as expected.

The Title list of the first Work appears as expected
The Title list of the second Work looks the same,
but with one exeption the Tracknumbering does not begin
with 1, but with the first Original Track number.
The Title list of the third work begins again
with tracknumber 1 but now there is a Disc 2 Separator
at the top of the list (like from discsubtitle)
The fourth work has a Seperator 2 and doesn't begin with a 1
(as the 2nd Work)

From the explanations of your handbook I would have suspected that
the renumbering of multidiscalbums would work here
to renumber each album created from a Work this way
with number 1 and not indicating multiple discs.

To understand this behavior better I eliminated
the discnumber Tag.
The the disc-seperator vanished, but then obviously
I will have a sorting problem when there are works that
occupy more than 1 disc.

Am I right with the following:
an items list of an Album is always sorted

1.discnumber
2.tracknumber
3.title

it always begins with
tracknumber of the first title in the list
the discnumber is shown as a DiscSeperator when the
first discnumber is 2 or greater.

Renumbering only kicks in when there is a change
of discnumber from 1 to 2 in the list.
(and it doesn't kick in from 2 to 3 if there wasn't a 1 to 2 change)

If that is so would it be possible
(without much effort - and as an option)
to force the renumbering
at the beginning of the item list in any case ?

If this is not possible I will have think of an easy way to
tag an alternate tracknumber for the works.

Thanks to your great alias Funktion
I Imagine I can get what I want by doing this.
(having a simple list beginning from 1 for each work)

Ahh I got carried away again Post is much too long SORRY