not all artists displayed

[alfreddo12]

I have a problem with three albums (Gabetta, Il progetto Vivaldi 1 to 3) recently acquired as WAV download, each of which I burned to CD and then ripped to FLAC using dbpoweramp.

Before ripping the 1st album, I completed tags for album artist, artist, soloists and orchestra tags as follows:
album artist Sol Gabetta / artist Sol Gabetta; Sonatori de la Gioiosa Marca / soloists Sol Gabetta / orchestra Sonatori de la Gioiosa Marca

The entries for the same of the 2nd and 3rd albums are:
album artist Sol Gabetta / artist Sol Gabetta; Andres Gabetta; Cappella Gabetta / soloists Sol Gabetta; Andres Gabetta / orchestra Cappella Gabetta


Whenever I use nstream (or Kinsky as an experiment or my daughter's BubbleUPnP) to search the artist field of Minimserver, only Sol Gabetta shows up; On the other hand, the other artists in the artist tag simply do not seem to exist as artists. The Ensembles which I entered into the artist and the orchestra tag are however displayed in the orchestra field of the control point. In the case of the 2nd and 3rd album, the situation is the same with regard to Andres Gabetta who does only appear in the in the soloists field of the control point.

When I choose any of the tracks for replay, the "now playing" section of the control points seems to display the artist information correctly, i.e. "Sol Gabetta / Andres Gabetta /Cappella Gabetta" when using Minimserver.

I assume that there could be something wrong with the files, but in the mean time verification using a different tagging software (dbpoweramp-EditID, puddletag, mp3tag) did not show anything striking.

Any idea as to where I would need to inquire further ?

Many thanks, Alfreddo12

[simoncn]

(21-11-2013 12:39)alfreddo12 Wrote:  I have a problem with three albums (Gabetta, Il progetto Vivaldi 1 to 3) recently acquired as WAV download, each of which I burned to CD and then ripped to FLAC using dbpoweramp.

Before ripping the 1st album, I completed tags for album artist, artist, soloists and orchestra tags as follows:
album artist Sol Gabetta / artist Sol Gabetta; Sonatori de la Gioiosa Marca / soloists Sol Gabetta / orchestra Sonatori de la Gioiosa Marca

The entries for the same of the 2nd and 3rd albums are:
album artist Sol Gabetta / artist Sol Gabetta; Andres Gabetta; Cappella Gabetta / soloists Sol Gabetta; Andres Gabetta / orchestra Cappella Gabetta


Whenever I use nstream (or Kinsky as an experiment or my daughter's BubbleUPnP) to search the artist field of Minimserver, only Sol Gabetta shows up; On the other hand, the other artists in the artist tag simply do not seem to exist as artists. The Ensembles which I entered into the artist and the orchestra tag are however displayed in the orchestra field of the control point. In the case of the 2nd and 3rd album, the situation is the same with regard to Andres Gabetta who does only appear in the in the soloists field of the control point.

When I choose any of the tracks for replay, the "now playing" section of the control points seems to display the artist information correctly, i.e. "Sol Gabetta / Andres Gabetta /Cappella Gabetta" when using Minimserver.

I assume that there could be something wrong with the files, but in the mean time verification using a different tagging software (dbpoweramp-EditID, puddletag, mp3tag) did not show anything striking.

Any idea as to where I would need to inquire further ?

Many thanks, Alfreddo12

Please post your complete settings for the following properties:

aliasTags
indexTags
itemTags
tagOptions
tagCustom
tagFormat

[alfreddo12]

Thanks for having a look at this. I have taken the relevant information directly from /opt/minimserver-0.72/data/minimserver.config :

minimserver.tagOptions = Album.sortTags\={Album, Artist, ComposerSort, ConductorSort, Composition, Orchestra}, Date.indexValue.yearOnly

minimserver.tagCustom = Composer.displayRole\={artist}

minimserver.tagFormat = ComposerSort.displayFormat\={$composersort}, ConductorSort.displayFormat\={$conductorsort}, Artist.displayFormat\={$artist$orchestra$conductor^^^ / }

minimserver.aliasTags = Publisher\:Label, ReleaseDate\:Date

minimserver.indexTags = Album, AlbumArtist\:Albuminterpret, Artist\:Interpret, ComposerSort\:Komponist, Composition\:Werk, ConductorSort\:Dirigent, Orchestra\:Orchester, Date\:Jahr, Genre\:Musikrichtung, Style, Period\:Zeitalter, Soloists\:Solist, Instrument, Label, Title\:Musikstück, \#AudioData\:Auflösung, \#AudioQuality\:Qualität, \#AudioFormat\:Format

minimserver.itemTags = Composer, Conductor


To further illustrate the issue, I add two screen shots. The first one shows the information displayed in the artist field of nstream, the second the artist information after choosing a track from one the three albums mentioned in my initial post.
The first screen shot also illustrates why I concluded that the issue is only with the three Gabetta albums mentioned in my initial post which are listed under "Sol Gabetta" entry, whereas a fourth album of her with another artist is listed as it should according the config file (as is the case with the other albums where I verified the information displayed in the artist field).

Alfreddo12

[simoncn]

The reason you are getting only Sol Gabetta in the Artist index for this album is that you have set the AlbumArtist to Sol Gabetta. MinimServer populates the Artist index values as follows:

1) If there is an AlbumArtist tag, use this value

2) Otherwise, use the Artist.indexFormat setting if there is one

3) Otherwise, use all the Artist values separated by commas

The value you are seeing on the Now Playing screen is created by your Artist.displayFormat setting. This is why it has a different format with '/' separators between the artist names.

The other album with Sol Gabetta and Hélène Grimaud presumably does not have an AlbumArtist tag value, so rule 3) has been applied.

[alfreddo12]

(21-11-2013 18:43)simoncn Wrote:  The reason you are getting only Sol Gabetta in the Artist index for this album is that you have set the AlbumArtist to Sol Gabetta. MinimServer populates the Artist index values as follows:

1) If there is an AlbumArtist tag, use this value

2) Otherwise, use the Artist.indexFormat setting if there is one

3) Otherwise, use all the Artist values separated by commas

The value you are seeing on the Now Playing screen is created by your Artist.displayFormat setting. This is why it has a different format with '/' separators between the artist names.

The other album with Sol Gabetta and Hélène Grimaud presumably does not have an AlbumArtist tag value, so rule 3) has been applied.

Thanks for this clarification. I have replaced "Artist\:Interpret" with "All Artists\:Interpret" which solves the issue re artist field (see screen shoot 3).
However, I wonder whether there is a possibility to de-activate option 1 in favor of options 2 and 3. This would allow me to continue to use the album tag in quite an arbitrary manner.

KR, Alfreddo12

BTW:
Your remark Gabetta/Grimaud made me verify the respective tags. Both musicians are in the artist as well as in the album artist tag. They appear in the artist field of nstream, but not in the album artist field. The minimserver log file issues the following warning: "conflicting ALBUMARTIST values ignored for file .... / first conflicting value: Sol Gabetta / second conflicting value: Hélène Grimaud"
Does this mean that Minimserver accepts a single album artist only ? If so, can this number be increased (if not, correcting about two dozen albums would be a too difficult task)

[simoncn]

(21-11-2013 20:14)alfreddo12 Wrote:  Thanks for this clarification. I have replaced "Artist\:Interpret" with "All Artists\:Interpret" which solves the issue re artist field (see screen shoot 3).
However, I wonder whether there is a possibility to de-activate option 1 in favor of options 2 and 3. This would allow me to continue to use the album tag in quite an arbitrary manner.

KR, Alfreddo12

BTW:
Your remark Gabetta/Grimaud made me verify the respective tags. Both musicians are in the artist as well as in the album artist tag. They appear in the artist field of nstream, but not in the album artist field. The minimserver log file issues the following warning: "conflicting ALBUMARTIST values ignored for file .... / first conflicting value: Sol Gabetta / second conflicting value: Hélène Grimaud"
Does this mean that Minimserver accepts a single album artist only ? If so, can this number be increased (if not, correcting about two dozen albums would be a too difficult task)

MinimServer accepts a single AlbumArtist value only, and this number cannot be increased.

If there is a reason why you need more than one name in these tags, you can use aliasTags to rename your AlbumArtist tags to something else such as MainArtist. This also provides a way to deactivate option 1).

[alfreddo12]

(21-11-2013 20:35)simoncn Wrote:  

(21-11-2013 20:14)alfreddo12 Wrote:  Thanks for this clarification. I have replaced "Artist\:Interpret" with "All Artists\:Interpret" which solves the issue re artist field (see screen shoot 3).
However, I wonder whether there is a possibility to de-activate option 1 in favor of options 2 and 3. This would allow me to continue to use the album tag in quite an arbitrary manner.

KR, Alfreddo12

BTW:
Your remark Gabetta/Grimaud made me verify the respective tags. Both musicians are in the artist as well as in the album artist tag. They appear in the artist field of nstream, but not in the album artist field. The minimserver log file issues the following warning: "conflicting ALBUMARTIST values ignored for file .... / first conflicting value: Sol Gabetta / second conflicting value: Hélène Grimaud"
Does this mean that Minimserver accepts a single album artist only ? If so, can this number be increased (if not, correcting about two dozen albums would be a too difficult task)

MinimServer accepts a single AlbumArtist value only, and this number cannot be increased.

If there is a reason why you need more than one name in these tags, you can use aliasTags to rename your AlbumArtist tags to something else such as MainArtist. This also provides a way to deactivate option 1).

Perfect ! I was playing around with something like "Artist:Albuminterpret, All Artists:Interpret". Your suggestion betters that workaround by quite a margin.
Alfreddo12
BTW: I am sorry for the typo, the sentence should have read "would not be a" ...