minimwatch unable to create tray icon

[simoncn]

Thanks for confirming. It seems something has changed since I installed and tested this last year. I will do a new installation with the latest version of Raspberry Pi OS 64-bit and post back here with what I find.

[simoncn]

(27-03-2024 14:27)Ronnhedh Wrote:  To me, it is not quite clear what Java is to be installed in Windows 11.
If "The Java runtime for Windows is available in 64-bit and 32-bit versions.", where could this download be obtained?
The https://www.java.com/en/download/ is used and MinimWatch is installed.
However MinimWatch refuses to start.

Regards
Lars

This download should be OK. You can check whether Java is able to start by opening a command prompt window and typing this command:

java -version

What is the output from this?

[Ronnhedh]

(27-03-2024 15:23)simoncn Wrote:  

(27-03-2024 14:27)Ronnhedh Wrote:  To me, it is not quite clear what Java is to be installed in Windows 11.
If "The Java runtime for Windows is available in 64-bit and 32-bit versions.", where could this download be obtained?
The https://www.java.com/en/download/ is used and MinimWatch is installed.
However MinimWatch refuses to start.

Regards
Lars

This download should be OK. You can check whether Java is able to start by opening a command prompt window and typing this command:

java -version

What is the output from this?

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.26085.1]
© Microsoft Corporation. Med ensamrätt.

java -version

C:\Users\Lars>java -version
java version "1.8.0_401"
Java™ SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_401-b10)
Java HotSpot™ 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.401-b10, mixed mode)

Regards,
Lars

[simoncn]

(27-03-2024 14:27)simoncn Wrote:  Thanks for confirming. It seems something has changed since I installed and tested this last year. I will do a new installation with the latest version of Raspberry Pi OS 64-bit and post back here with what I find.

I am seeing the same problem. It is caused by the latest version of Raspberry Pi OS (bookworm) using Wayland by default instead of X11. Java needs X11 to show system tray icons. You can select X11 by doing the following:

1) In a Terminal window, run this command: sudo raspi-config
2) Select option 6 (Advanced Options) and press Enter
3) Select option A6 (Wayland) and press Enter
4) Select option W1 (X11) and press Enter
5) Reboot

You should now see the MinimServer tray icon when MinimServer is running.

[simoncn]

(27-03-2024 17:57)Ronnhedh Wrote:  Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.26085.1]
© Microsoft Corporation. Med ensamrätt.

java -version

C:\Users\Lars>java -version
java version "1.8.0_401"
Java™ SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_401-b10)
Java HotSpot™ 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.401-b10, mixed mode)

Regards,
Lars

I think it would be better to create a separate forum thread to continue this discussion. It is confusing to have discussion about two completely different issues intertwined in the same thread. I will start a new thread now for this issue (referencing this thread) and post a response there.

Edit: The new thread is here.

[Ronnhedh]

(27-03-2024 20:41)simoncn Wrote:  

(27-03-2024 14:27)simoncn Wrote:  Thanks for confirming. It seems something has changed since I installed and tested this last year. I will do a new installation with the latest version of Raspberry Pi OS 64-bit and post back here with what I find.

I am seeing the same problem. It is caused by the latest version of Raspberry Pi OS (bookworm) using Wayland by default instead of X11. Java needs X11 to show system tray icons. You can select X11 by doing the following:

1) In a Terminal window, run this command: sudo raspi-config
2) Select option 6 (Advanced Options) and press Enter
3) Select option A6 (Wayland) and press Enter
4) Select option W1 (X11) and press Enter
5) Reboot

You should now see the MinimServer tray icon when MinimServer is running.

That recepy made it!
Now, I have a MinimWatch icon for each of the MinimServer instances I am running. I can however edit the properties on the Raspberry Pi instance only.
I assume you may want to update the instalation instructions!

Best regards
Lars

[simoncn]

I am not seeng this problem with MinimWatch and other MinimServer instances. Do the icons for other MinimServer instances show green or grey? Does the menu for these icons allow you to view properties or is the Properties menu selection disabled?

I will update the installation instructions.

[Ronnhedh]

(28-03-2024 13:53)simoncn Wrote:  I am not seeng this problem with MinimWatch and other MinimServer instances. Do the icons for other MinimServer instances show green or grey? Does the menu for these icons allow you to view properties or is the Properties menu selection disabled?

I will update the installation instructions.

Yes, the icons for all MiniServer instances show are present and shows green colour.

The local content resources entered in ContentDir in MinimServer properties are recognised. The data is however not recognised and hence not indexed.
After switching and restarting the 32-bit configuration, the content is now regognized and indexed.
As this is a new issue, should I open a separate thread?

regards
Lars

[simoncn]

I think we can continue on this thread as the other discussion has completed. The problem previously was having two active discussions in progress at the same time.

I don't understand what you mean by this:

Quote:The local content resources entered in ContentDir in MinimServer properties are recognised. The data is however not recognised and hence not indexed.

Please post exactly what you have entered in the contentDir property on your 64-bit system. Also, please explain what you mean by "the data is not recognised". Is there an error message or are you seeing an empty library? If you are seeing an empty library, you might need to do a MinimServer rescan or you might have entered the wrong directory name in contentDir.

If you could post screenshots of what you are seeing, this would be very helpful.

[Ronnhedh]

(28-03-2024 18:39)simoncn Wrote:  I think we can continue on this thread as the other discussion has completed. The problem previously was having two active discussions in progress at the same time.

I don't understand what you mean by this:

Quote:The local content resources entered in ContentDir in MinimServer properties are recognised. The data is however not recognised and hence not indexed.

Please post exactly what you have entered in the contentDir property on your 64-bit system. Also, please explain what you mean by "the data is not recognised". Is there an error message or are you seeing an empty library? If you are seeing an empty library, you might need to do a MinimServer rescan or you might have entered the wrong directory name in contentDir.

If you could post screenshots of what you are seeing, this would be very helpful.

It is simple:
As a property, I have listed two directories. These drives are called Digitalt (for aquired digital recordings) and Analogt (for recordings from the LP collection), By some reason these are assigned an index (such as Digitalt1) which I have accepted.
At some unclear occations the content of these drives are lost and could hence not be indexed.
If however I change from 64-bit to 32-bit system, all other unchanged, the drive content is available for the indexing (rescanning) process.
IMHO the 64-bit O/S seem not to be stable while do not deliver any advantages for my purposes,

I hope this simple language is fully clear and understandable!

Regards,
Lars