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Ken · 25-02-2015, 22:59

(25-02-2015 20:09)simoncn Wrote:
(25-02-2015 19:29)Ken Wrote: I think I had assumed the fix would increase the size of the buffer, thereby reducing stuttering.
Having said that I have been listening to Radio 4 for the last hour and as time has passed it seems to be more stable. I have not had to restart it.
I had also assumed that the BBC was responsible for some of the stuttering given that the MP3 streams definitely stutter quite a lot.

You could try setting delayHLS=10 in the new stream.options property as described in this post. This increases the stream delay from the real-time analogue signal. Please let me know whether this improves things.

Thanks. Will report back later tomorrow.
Ken

Ken · 26-02-2015, 18:26

(25-02-2015 22:59)Ken Wrote:
(25-02-2015 20:09)simoncn Wrote:
(25-02-2015 19:29)Ken Wrote: I think I had assumed the fix would increase the size of the buffer, thereby reducing stuttering.
Having said that I have been listening to Radio 4 for the last hour and as time has passed it seems to be more stable. I have not had to restart it.
I had also assumed that the BBC was responsible for some of the stuttering given that the MP3 streams definitely stutter quite a lot.

You could try setting delayHLS=10 in the new stream.options property as described in this post. This increases the stream delay from the real-time analogue signal. Please let me know whether this improves things.

Thanks. Will report back later tomorrow.
Ken

Still stuttering on Radio 4, my main BBC listening. Interestingly the stuttering is usually in the first few minutes of streaming, then it settles down and there might be the odd stutter perhaps after 20 minutes or so

I'll follow the progress on the Raspberry Pi posts and put my questions there as it sounds as though it might be the same issue.

Ken

simoncn · 26-02-2015, 18:30

(26-02-2015 18:26)Ken Wrote: Still stuttering on Radio 4, my main BBC listening. Interestingly the stuttering is usually in the first few minutes of streaming, then it settles down and there might be the odd stutter perhaps after 20 minutes or so

I'll follow the progress on the Raspberry Pi posts and put my questions there as it sounds as though it might be the same issue.

Ken

I think it's clear now that increasing the initial HLS delay isn't a solution for this Sonos problem. I should be receiving my Sonos PLAY:1 soon, which will enable me to investigate the problem in more detail.

AlexM4 · 28-02-2015, 17:22

(16-02-2015 16:38)simoncn Wrote:
(10-02-2015 18:21)simoncn Wrote: The BBC appears to have discontinued the AAC streams for national radio stations. These are being replaced by new HLS AAC streams. I am working on a technical solution to enable MinimStreamer to handle the new HLS streams.

This solution is now available in MinimStreamer 0.5.2. When you play an HLS stream via MinimStreamer, it is automatically converted to a "normal" AAC ADTS stream. The converted AAC stream can optionally be transcoded to other formats such as wav, wav24 or L16. It can also be recorded to an AAC ADTS file.

I have tested this with the BBC streams in the following .m3u playlist file:

Code:

#EXTM3U #EXTINF:-1,[*R1] BBC Radio 1 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R1X] BBC Radio 1Xtra http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_1xtra.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R2] BBC Radio 2 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R3] BBC Radio 3 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R4] BBC Radio 4 FM http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R4L] BBC Radio 4 LW http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_fourlw.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R4X] BBC Radio 4 Extra http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_four_extra.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R5] BBC Radio 5 Live http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R5X] BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*R6] BBC Radio 6 Music http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_6music.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*AN] BBC Asian Network http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_asian_network.m3u8 #EXTINF:-1,[*WS] BBC World Service http://bbcwsen-lh.akamaihd.net/i/WSEIEUK_1@189911/master.m3u8

Edit: corrected some errors in the above stream URLs.

Wow, many thanks Simoncn for the BBC URL codes. I've just installed them into Shoutcast on my Synology with success. In fact it's about the only success I have had with the Synology and been searching for BBC access on the internet for some time to no avail. Not been able to use minimserver yet as kinsky (although see's minimserver), doesn't play. Progress in motion. Thank you, Alex

simoncn · 28-02-2015, 20:59

(28-02-2015 17:22)AlexM4 Wrote: Wow, many thanks Simoncn for the BBC URL codes. I've just installed them into Shoutcast on my Synology with success. In fact it's about the only success I have had with the Synology and been searching for BBC access on the internet for some time to no avail. Not been able to use minimserver yet as kinsky (although see's minimserver), doesn't play. Progress in motion. Thank you, Alex

Thanks for this feedback.

What exactly do you mean by "installed them into Shoutcast on my Synology"? I would like to try this.

Also, can you provide more information about "kinsky (although see's minimserver), doesn't play"? Which UPnP renderer are you using when you try to play these streams with Kinsky?

davids · 28-02-2015, 21:56

(28-02-2015 17:22)AlexM4 Wrote: Not been able to use minimserver yet as kinsky (although see's minimserver), doesn't play.

I had the same issue with Kinsky sending to a Naim mu-so. Fortunately the Naim app works well (with the same MinimStreamer set up).

simoncn · 28-02-2015, 21:59

(28-02-2015 21:56)davids Wrote: I had the same issue with Kinsky sending to a Naim mu-so. Fortunately the Naim app works well (with the same MinimStreamer set up).

This is probably a MIME type issue. Have you used any transcoding settings in the stream.transcode property?

AlexM4 · 28-02-2015, 23:14

(28-02-2015 20:59)simoncn Wrote:
(28-02-2015 17:22)AlexM4 Wrote: Wow, many thanks Simoncn for the BBC URL codes. I've just installed them into Shoutcast on my Synology with success. In fact it's about the only success I have had with the Synology and been searching for BBC access on the internet for some time to no avail. Not been able to use minimserver yet as kinsky (although see's minimserver), doesn't play. Progress in motion. Thank you, Alex

Thanks for this feedback.

What exactly do you mean by "installed them into Shoutcast on my Synology"? I would like to try this.

Also, can you provide more information about "kinsky (although see's minimserver), doesn't play"? Which UPnP renderer are you using when you try to play these streams with Kinsky?

Recently purchased synology 214 play which comes with a server called audiostation. This is connected to a usb dac that if I'm correct is the renderer ? Audiostation provides internet radio via shoutcast which provides a list of stations on offer but no bbc. Found you list here, copy and pasted into 'my favourites' and works well. Not sure of bit rates but sound quality is pretty good. Minimserver is installed on the synology via audiostation with Kinskey on iPad. Kinskey sees diskstation and minimserver on the diskstation but doesn't play, nothing is listed in 'rooms' or 'sources'. Only audiostation works. Make any sense ?

chrisgrey · 28-02-2015, 23:52

Hi, I am using MinimStreamer on my Synology NAS and listening on my Roberts 83i. I have set everything up, added the stations in the Frontier Silicon portal, however I find that Radio 3 works, but 5Live doesn't.
Anyone have any suggestions.

I am using the BBCRadio.m3U file that was posted and my added URL's are:

http://192.168.9.104:9790/minimstreamer/*/R3 (works)
and
http://192.168.9.104:9790/minimstreamer/*/R5 (connecting..loading..silence)

Thanks.

simoncn · 01-03-2015, 10:50

(28-02-2015 23:52)chrisgrey Wrote: Hi, I am using MinimStreamer on my Synology NAS and listening on my Roberts 83i. I have set everything up, added the stations in the Frontier Silicon portal, however I find that Radio 3 works, but 5Live doesn't.
Anyone have any suggestions.

I am using the BBCRadio.m3U file that was posted and my added URL's are:

http://192.168.9.104:9790/minimstreamer/*/R3 (works)
and
http://192.168.9.104:9790/minimstreamer/*/R5 (connecting..loading..silence)

Thanks.

I'm not sure which BBCRadio.m3u file you're using. Is it the sample file that's linked from this page (step 3)? I have tried all these streams and they are working for me.

Are you located outside the UK? This makes a difference to which streams are available.