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Composition tag - alfreddo12 - 11-11-2013 08:24
I am about to refine the tagging of the classical part of my collection by adding a composition tag. As we are on Linux (Ubuntu 12.04 /13.10 plus Vortexbox with MinimServer) CDs had been ripped using dbpoweramp (wine) and downloads have tagged using puddletag (or, in earlier days, mp3tag (wine)).
Surprisingly, MinimServer does not recognize the composition tag if I add it in puddletag even though the tag information is written into the file, according to verifications with mp3tag and the tag-editor of dbpoweramp (displayed as "composition", not "Composition"), on a friend's Notebook. Also, if I add the composition tag using mp3tag ("COMPOSITION") or the tag-editor of dbpoweramp ("Composition"), Minimserver recognizes and displays it immediately after a restart.
I have already tried to define the composition tag as "Composition" instead of "composition" in puddletag, without any effect.
I wonder whether others have the same issue and whether it is down to puddletag, Minimserver or else.
Alfreddo12
RE: Composition tag - simoncn - 11-11-2013 12:13
(11-11-2013 08:24)alfreddo12 Wrote: I am about to refine the tagging of the classical part of my collection by adding a composition tag. As we are on Linux (Ubuntu 12.04 /13.10 plus Vortexbox with MinimServer) CDs had been ripped using dbpoweramp (wine) and downloads have tagged using puddletag (or, in earlier days, mp3tag (wine)).
Surprisingly, MinimServer does not recognize the composition tag if I add it in puddletag even though the tag information is written into the file, according to verifications with mp3tag and the tag-editor of dbpoweramp (displayed as "composition", not "Composition"), on a friend's Notebook. Also, if I add the composition tag using mp3tag ("COMPOSITION") or the tag-editor of dbpoweramp ("Composition"), Minimserver recognizes and displays it immediately after a restart.
I have already tried to define the composition tag as "Composition" instead of "composition" in puddletag, without any effect.
I wonder whether others have the same issue and whether it is down to puddletag, Minimserver or else.
Alfreddo12
What type of audio file is this (e.g., MP3, FLAC, ALAC, MP4)?
MinimServer does not use case sensitivity when looking at tag names. There might be a problem with the way puddletag is writing this tag into the file. The quickest way to confirm this would be for me to look at the contents of one of your files that is tagged in this way. I will send you a PM with details of an FTP server where you can upload the file.
RE: Composition tag - winxi - 11-11-2013 13:27
I remember that there have been reports that MinimServer didn't recognize tags modified by puddletag. This was because puddletag didn't update the time stamps when saving the modified files. Maybe this is here the problem, too.
RE: Composition tag - simoncn - 11-11-2013 14:42
(11-11-2013 13:27)winxi Wrote: I remember that there have been reports that MinimServer didn't recognize tags modified by puddletag. This was because puddletag didn't update the time stamps when saving the modified files. Maybe this is here the problem, too.
Thanks for this suggestion.
The easiest way to verify this is to set the writeAllTags property to any filename (I use allTags.txt) and restart MinimServer. This setting will cause MinimServer to ignore its cache files. If this causes the puddletag changes to become visible, the problem is caused by this timestamp issue.
RE: Composition tag - alfreddo12 - 11-11-2013 15:45
(11-11-2013 14:42)simoncn Wrote:(11-11-2013 13:27)winxi Wrote: I remember that there have been reports that MinimServer didn't recognize tags modified by puddletag. This was because puddletag didn't update the time stamps when saving the modified files. Maybe this is here the problem, too.
Thanks for this suggestion.
The easiest way to verify this is to set the writeAllTags property to any filename (I use allTags.txt) and restart MinimServer. This setting will cause MinimServer to ignore its cache files. If this causes the puddletag changes to become visible, the problem is caused by this timestamp issue.
Thanks to both of you. I use flac and have uploaded a sample. BTW, Simon's hint re writeAllTags solved the problem.
KR, Alfreddo 12
Update: I played around with puddletag and found an alternative to Simon's suggestion: go to puddletag settings and deactivate the "preserve file modification times" option (which is set by default) ...
RE: Composition tag - simoncn - 11-11-2013 17:08
(11-11-2013 15:45)alfreddo12 Wrote: Thanks to both of you. I use flac and have uploaded a sample. BTW, Simon's hint re writeAllTags solved the problem.
KR, Alfreddo 12
Update: I played around with puddletag and found an alternative to Simon's suggestion: go to puddletag settings and deactivate the "preserve file modification times" option (which is set by default) ...
My suggestion was only to confirm the cause of the problem. It was not intended to be a permanent solution. Thanks for this information about how to solve this problem using the puddletag settings.