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Folders display but files don't - SOLVED - JLGF1 - 10-07-2023 14:26

RE: new trial instance of MSserver.

Tested these clients so far: BubbleUP & Neutron-Player & HiFi-Cast

BubbleUP/HiFi shows folders & files. NMP shows only folders (no files).

Is this solid evidence that it has to be a (NMP) client issue and not a server config tweak?

Thanks.


RE: Folders display but files don't - simbun - 11-07-2023 10:48

I've just tried Neutron Music Player on Android and from a quick look it appears it's asking for a source (assuming you're in 'DIRECTORY SELECTION') so that it can index your music, it doesn't appear to be a UPnP browser.
When making a DIRECTORY SELECTION make sure you choose a location under [folder view] as described in their FAQ.


RE: Folders display but files don't - SOLVED - JLGF1 - 12-07-2023 04:49

(11-07-2023 10:48)simbun Wrote:  it doesn't appear to be a UPnP browser.

You lost me there.

Of course, NMP has to be pointed to at least one source in order to index files just like (I guess?) any other UPnP controller/renderer.

I enabled a rather obtusely named non-default NMP config option [folder view] and magically the files appeared though the name seems rather counter-intuitive.


RE: Folders display but files don't - SOLVED - simbun - 12-07-2023 07:50

(12-07-2023 04:49)JLGF1 Wrote:  
(11-07-2023 10:48)simbun Wrote:  it doesn't appear to be a UPnP browser.

You lost me there.

Of course, NMP has to be pointed to at least one source in order to index files just like (I guess?) any other UPnP controller/renderer.

A traditional UPnP control point doesn't index the files at all, that's why there's no initial delay and why the browse tree looks identical in whatever control point you use e.g.:
Code:
n albums
n items
n playlists
...

A UPnP control point discovers the media server using UPnP (so no configuration is needed) and then direct communication between the control point and media server begin.
Very loosely speaking, the media server sends the control point metadata (in xml) about the objects that make up the first screen, then in response to a user selection the control point feeds that back to the media server and it replies with additional metadata for the following screen, and this continues until the user makes a track selection at which point the control point tells the renderer to play the track from the media server.

With Neutron there's not really any need for a UPnP media server at all, you could just point it to a network share, and that's why the browse tree is different:
Code:
Playlists
Artists
Albums
...

It's possible that if you don't ask for any DSP Neutron may instruct the renderer to source the tracks from the media server, but it's more than likely originating from the phone, which isn't ideal.