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24bit Wav will not play - Jon - 16-10-2020 22:40

Hello you,
I have downloaded an album from Bleep.com in 24 bit wav - it’ll just not play via any control point I use. The end point is a Cyrus streamer & I've tried using the native Cyrus App & MConnect from an iPhone & have tried BubbleUPNP from a Fire tablet.

The Cyrus App simply says ‘invalid file type’ (The Cyrus website claims my streamer supports 24bit wav). MConnect & Bubbleupnp, do nothing, just freeze up.

I have downloaded the same album as .flac - plays fine via all control points.

Im running a QNAP Nas with MinimServer 2 Installed. I have MinimWatch installed on a laptop, but doesn’t suggest any error.

Thoughts welcome.

Thanks in advance


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - GreenMtnGringo - 16-10-2020 23:03

Is the FLAC version of the same album 24-bit or 16-bit?

Also, what is the name/model # of your Cyrus streamer?

And do you have any other 24-bit files you can try? If not, you can download some free/legal ones here:

http://www.2l.no/hires/


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - simoncn - 17-10-2020 10:01

Is this a single large file for the whole album or separate files for each track? The WAV format doesn't support files larger than 4 GB.

There are number of ways a WAV file can be encoded. If the album has separate track files, please upload one of these files (smaller is better) to my FTP server and I will look at it. I will PM you the server details.

The other possibility is a format error in how the file is encoded, although MinimServer should have produced an error or warning mesage for this.


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - Jon - 17-10-2020 11:24

(16-10-2020 23:03)GreenMtnGringo Wrote:  Is the FLAC version of the same album 24-bit or 16-bit?

Also, what is the name/model # of your Cyrus streamer?

And do you have any other 24-bit files you can try? If not, you can download some free/legal ones here:

http://www.2l.no/hires/

Hi, thanks for coming back. The FLAC version is 16-bit lossless. The Cyrus Streamer is the X2 model. This was my first foray into 24bit Wav, all else i stream is FLAC.

I'll take a look at that site.

best


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - Jon - 17-10-2020 11:29

(17-10-2020 10:01)simoncn Wrote:  Is this a single large file for the whole album or separate files for each track? The WAV format doesn't support files larger than 4 GB.

There are number of ways a WAV file can be encoded. If the album has separate track files, please upload one of these files (smaller is better) to my FTP server and I will look at it. I will PM you the server details.

The other possibility is a format error in how the file is encoded, although MinimServer should have produced an error or warning mesage for this.

Hi Simon,

Its a whole album (the new Autechre one) 11 individual files. Happy too share a file. Share the server details & i'll upload a file.

thanks


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - simoncn - 17-10-2020 11:59

You have a PM with the server details. Many thanks.


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - Jon - 17-10-2020 20:17

(17-10-2020 11:59)simoncn Wrote:  You have a PM with the server details. Many thanks.

I have downloaded 'CyberDuck' but says the Server timed out when i try to connect. The smallest of the 11 files is 53.2mb. Can i upload here?

thanks


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - simoncn - 17-10-2020 22:30

Thanks for uploading the file. The internal format is corrupt and no program can read it.

If you look in the MinimServer log, you should see two warnings:

Warning: ID3v2 tag has invalid size 12599296 in file SIGN-008-Autechre-gr4.wav (length 53246678)
Warning: unable to complete reading ID3v2 tag data at offset 54 in file SIGN-008-Autechre-gr4.wav (length 53246678)


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - Jon - 18-10-2020 08:47

(17-10-2020 22:30)simoncn Wrote:  Thanks for uploading the file. The internal format is corrupt and no program can read it.

If you look in the MinimServer log, you should see two warnings:

Warning: ID3v2 tag has invalid size 12599296 in file SIGN-008-Autechre-gr4.wav (length 53246678)
Warning: unable to complete reading ID3v2 tag data at offset 54 in file SIGN-008-Autechre-gr4.wav (length 53246678)

Thank you for all your help - i'll approach Bleep.com


RE: 24bit Wav will not play - Jon - 24-10-2020 16:25

(18-10-2020 08:47)Jon Wrote:  
(17-10-2020 22:30)simoncn Wrote:  Thanks for uploading the file. The internal format is corrupt and no program can read it.

If you look in the MinimServer log, you should see two warnings:

Warning: ID3v2 tag has invalid size 12599296 in file SIGN-008-Autechre-gr4.wav (length 53246678)
Warning: unable to complete reading ID3v2 tag data at offset 54 in file SIGN-008-Autechre-gr4.wav (length 53246678)

Thank you for all your help - i'll approach Bleep.com

I've successfully played the wav24 files direct from my MAC using their QuickTime player directly from the MAC & into my Cyrus PreAmp using a USB connection. But, streaming the files are sill flagged as an invalid file type. Maybe the streamer cannot process the files..