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Fine tuning configuration - nidsee - 15-05-2020 13:51

Hello,

I eventually decided to understand the various options on Minimserver and I am struggling with few concepts.
In the documentation it is stated that to sort an artist index by Artistsort the syntax is: "Artist.value.sort={ArtistSort}". However browsing through the forum I could find "Artist.value.index.sort={ArtistSort}"
What is the difference between the two?

I tried to create an album index ordered by artist and date with the following option.
"Album.sortTags={Artist,Date}". It did not work (I could see the index but sorted by album name). Then I simplified with "Album.sortTags={+Date}" which did not change anything. So I am missing something...

Eventually, is it possible to create an index based on last added albums ?

Thank you in advance for your help


RE: Fine tuning configuration - simoncn - 15-05-2020 14:30

Which control point are you using? Some control points don't use the sort order sent by MinimServer but use their own sort order instead.

Each tag value can also have a sort value and/or an index value. The index value controls what appears in each index entry. The sort value controls the order in which the index entries appear.

After making any changes to the sortTags settings you need to restart MinimServer and you might also need to restart your control point.


RE: Fine tuning configuration - Alandbush - 15-05-2020 15:13

(15-05-2020 13:51)nidsee Wrote:  Eventually, is it possible to create an index based on last added albums ?

Do your audio files contain a tag that contains a date added or similar value? If so, an index can be simply created.


RE: Fine tuning configuration - nidsee - 15-05-2020 19:55

(15-05-2020 14:30)simoncn Wrote:  Which control point are you using? Some control points don't use the sort order sent by MinimServer but use their own sort order instead.

I am using several control points: dCS Mosaic, Lumin App, BubbleUpnp. I understood that depending on the control point the final outcome may be different. I am currently testing with Bubble as I ensured it shows me when I add or remote a new index...

simoncn Wrote:Each tag value can also have a sort value and/or an index value. The index value controls what appears in each index entry. The sort value controls the order in which the index entries appear.
So index will change only the display while sort would impact the order ?

simoncn Wrote:After making any changes to the sortTags settings you need to restart MinimServer and you might also need to restart your control point.
I restart both after each try as I read that may not be directly visible


RE: Fine tuning configuration - nidsee - 15-05-2020 19:59

(15-05-2020 15:13)Alandbush Wrote:  
(15-05-2020 13:51)nidsee Wrote:  Eventually, is it possible to create an index based on last added albums ?

Do your audio files contain a tag that contains a date added or similar value? If so, an index can be simply created.
Yes they are all supposed to have the tags I am using for the screening


RE: Fine tuning configuration - Alandbush - 15-05-2020 20:19

(15-05-2020 19:59)nidsee Wrote:  
(15-05-2020 15:13)Alandbush Wrote:  
(15-05-2020 13:51)nidsee Wrote:  Eventually, is it possible to create an index based on last added albums ?

Do your audio files contain a tag that contains a date added or similar value? If so, an index can be simply created.
Yes they are all supposed to have the tags I am using for the screening and for test purpose I focused on albums on which I was sure these tags are set properly

If the tag is present and let's assume it's called Date, you simply need to add Date to the indexTags property.

Refer to the indexTags section of the User guide.


RE: Fine tuning configuration - nidsee - 15-05-2020 20:30

(15-05-2020 20:19)Alandbush Wrote:  If the tag is present and let's assume it's called Date, you simply need to add Date to the indexTags property.

Refer to the indexTags section of the User guide.


I found the other discussion where you were talking about adding a "recently added" tag
I probably answered too quickly as I did not notice your question was focused on my last request. If I have a date tag, I do not have yet anything that represents the date when the album has been added in the set.
As you stated in your other thread, they are control points that bring in such view. The one I have in mind, does not and I wonder if that was already possible directly from Minimserver (it could use file "modified date" or something like that with obviously some caveats but...).
Based on your other discussion and proposal, I guess it is not possible.


RE: Fine tuning configuration - simoncn - 15-05-2020 21:04

(15-05-2020 19:55)nidsee Wrote:  I am using several control points: dCS Mosaic, Lumin App, BubbleUpnp. I understood that depending on the control point the final outcome may be different. I am currently testing with Bubble as I ensured it shows me when I add or remote a new index...

There should be no problem with sort order using BubbleUPnP or dCS Mosaic. The LUMIN app uses its own sort order unless you use "folder view" (not really folder view).

Quote:So index will change only the display while sort would impact the order ?

Yes, unless the control point is using the index display value as the sort order.

When you tried setting Album.sortTags, were you looking at the "n albums" list or some other Album index? This setting only affects the "n albums" list.

MinimServer does not yet support "last added".


RE: Fine tuning configuration - nidsee - 15-05-2020 21:31

(15-05-2020 21:04)simoncn Wrote:  There should be no problem with sort order using BubbleUPnP or dCS Mosaic. The LUMIN app uses its own sort order unless you use "folder view" (not really folder view).

Quote:So index will change only the display while sort would impact the order ?

Yes, unless the control point is using the index display value as the sort order.

When you tried setting Album.sortTags, were you looking at the "n albums" list or some other Album index? This setting only affects the "n albums" list.

MinimServer does not yet support "last added".

I was using an Album index and not "n albums" list. Now it follows the setting. Thank you.
So more or less it is useless to create an Album index as it is by default proposed via "n albums" view ?


RE: Fine tuning configuration - simoncn - 15-05-2020 22:38

Yes, I recommend using the default "n albums".