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Success with BBC streams! - robt - 27-03-2015 23:33
Just wanted to say thanks.
Have all the high quality streams working perfectly. Minimserver and Streamer installed on my Synology NAS feeding my LMS and multiple Squeezebox set up.
Thanks for the easy to follow instructions and really enjoying this brilliant solution. Was really concerned when the BBC streams dropped out but that cloud definitely has a silver lining now!
Small donation sent, but feeling a bit mean now so expect another one!
Rob
DS1511+, 2 x SB Radios, Boom and 2x SB Duets
RE: Success with BBC streams! - simoncn - 28-03-2015 08:47
(27-03-2015 23:33)robt Wrote: Just wanted to say thanks.
Have all the high quality streams working perfectly. Minimserver and Streamer installed on my Synology NAS feeding my LMS and multiple Squeezebox set up.
Thanks for the easy to follow instructions and really enjoying this brilliant solution. Was really concerned when the BBC streams dropped out but that cloud definitely has a silver lining now!
Small donation sent, but feeling a bit mean now so expect another one!
Rob
DS1511+, 2 x SB Radios, Boom and 2x SB Duets
Thanks for this positive feedback and for the donation!
RE: Success with BBC streams! - machare - 15-04-2015 11:26
I have also manage to get Minimaerver running on a Synology NAS and streaming the BBC programmes. It all sounds fine, so thank you for everything that has been done to make this possible.
I listen to the radio using a Naim Qute. What I don't understand is why the Qute info is telling me that the stream is just 60k. It does not sound like that.
The 'BBC Radio.m3u' file is exactly as I downloaded it. I have read about making changes to this file in other threads. Is this necessary?
Mike
RE: Success with BBC streams! - simoncn - 15-04-2015 11:36
(15-04-2015 11:26)machare Wrote: I have also manage to get Minimaerver running on a Synology NAS and streaming the BBC programmes. It all sounds fine, so thank you for everything that has been done to make this possible.
I listen to the radio using a Naim Qute. What I don't understand is why the Qute info is telling me that the stream is just 60k. It does not sound like that.
The 'BBC Radio.m3u' file is exactly as I downloaded it. I have read about making changes to this file in other threads. Is this necessary?
Mike
Are you in the UK? This makes a difference to the bit rate of the streams that you can receive.
What is the exact URL that you are using for one of the streams?
Are you transcoding the stream using the *:L16 setting?
RE: Success with BBC streams! - machare - 15-04-2015 13:03
Thanks for your reply.
I am in the UK.
This is the URL I use for Radio 4:
http://10.0.0.108:9790/minimstreamer/*/R4
No, I don't have any transcoding. I am not using the *:L16 setting.
Mike
RE: Success with BBC streams! - machare - 15-04-2015 13:42
I should add that my Roberts Stream 83i thinks the bit rate is more like 322kpbs, it varies slightly!
I expect that my problem is associated with the Naim.
Can I directly access the streams using UPnP? My Naim equipment can see the stations listed but wont play them. The names begin with [ ] brackets.
The Roberts does not list the stations.
RE: Success with BBC streams! - Cebolla - 15-04-2015 17:08
(15-04-2015 13:42)machare Wrote: I should add that my Roberts Stream 83i thinks the bit rate is more like 322kpbs, it varies slightly!Your Naim probably can't play the streams via UPnP, because it requires the additional stream audio info added to the BBC .m3u playlist, as mentioned in the MinimStreamer user guide:
I expect that my problem is associated with the Naim.
Can I directly access the streams using UPnP? My Naim equipment can see the stations listed but wont play them. The names begin with [ ] brackets.
The Roberts does not list the stations.
"Some control points and renderers are unable to play streams unless additional stream audio information is provided in the playlist entry. If you need to provide this audio information for your control point or renderer, you can use one of the following formats for the stream name:
[id;type] name
[id;type,samplerate] name
[id;type,samplerate,channels] name
where type is the stream type (mp3, aac, etc.), samplerate is the sample rate (default 44100 if omitted) and channels is the number of channels (default 2 if omitted)."
My Pioneer N-50 streamer also requires this info in the playlist for it to play the BBC streams via UPnP. For example I use the following top line for Radio 4:
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4;aac] BBC Radio 4
This actually produces a stream with a $!stream.aac 'file' added to the end of the original URL, eg for your original Radio 4 URL above:
http://10.0.0.108:9790/minimstreamer/*/R4/$!stream.aac
Interestingly, my N-50 is very similar to your Naim in that it only displays a bitrate of 60kbps when accessing the streams via the vTuner internet radio link and also displays 64kbps when using the UPnP stream, so go figure!
Also, I get the expected of 323kbps for both stream/URL types when using a software player like Foobar2000. So I suspect the N-50 is just not displaying the correct value for some reason (& may be uses a similar playback engine to your Naim), as it certainly doesn't sound of low bitrate quality nor any different to using the software player.
RE: Success with BBC streams! - machare - 15-04-2015 20:05
Thank you for your help. I had to use AAC rather than aac! My Naim eqipment now works fine, but my Roberts Stream 83i can see the Playlist but not the contents. Strange!
RE: Success with BBC streams! - simoncn - 15-04-2015 20:19
(15-04-2015 13:03)machare Wrote: Thanks for your reply.
I am in the UK.
This is the URL I use for Radio 4:
http://10.0.0.108:9790/minimstreamer/*/R4
No, I don't have any transcoding. I am not using the *:L16 setting.
Mike
Thanks for this. I meant the URL in the .m3u file. What is the R4 URL there?
RE: Success with BBC streams! - machare - 15-04-2015 20:41
Ah, the URL in the .m3u file is:
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
Mike