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Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - volkerpf - 09-11-2014 13:03
Hello,
I'm new in this forum and I got a problem. Today I downloaded an album from HDTracks; 24/96. MinimServer is running on my PC and works well. But with this album, it doesn't work. The N50 restarts when I chose this album to play. Ather albums also 24/96 can be played without problems. I tried to play this album with Mediamonkey and it worked well. The problem is only with minimserver. Can you help? I restartet minimserver several times, I also made rescans. I got no clue to solve this problem.
Volker
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - simoncn - 09-11-2014 13:50
(09-11-2014 13:03)volkerpf Wrote: Hello,
I'm new in this forum and I got a problem. Today I downloaded an album from HDTracks; 24/96. MinimServer is running on my PC and works well. But with this album, it doesn't work. The N50 restarts when I chose this album to play. Ather albums also 24/96 can be played without problems. I tried to play this album with Mediamonkey and it worked well. The problem is only with minimserver. Can you help? I restartet minimserver several times, I also made rescans. I got no clue to solve this problem.
Volker
Welcome to the MinimServer forum!
Are there any error or warning messages in the MinimServer log?
What is the format of the album (FLAC, ALAC, WAV, AIFF, etc.)?
Are you using MinimStreamer transcoding to play the album in a different format?
Which control point are you using to play the album?
Please try playing each track of the album separately to see whether the problem affects all tracks or only some tracks.
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - volkerpf - 09-11-2014 14:04
Hello simoncn,
sorry that I forgot this Information:
There is no information in the logging file, no error, no warning. Minimserver is running, only the n50 restarts and doesn't play the tracks of thie album.
I use only flac format and there is no transcoding active.
As Controlling Point I use the original Controlling of the networkplayer. The problem affects all the tracks of the album.
Volkerpf
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - simoncn - 09-11-2014 15:45
(09-11-2014 14:04)volkerpf Wrote: Hello simoncn,
sorry that I forgot this Information:
There is no information in the logging file, no error, no warning. Minimserver is running, only the n50 restarts and doesn't play the tracks of thie album.
I use only flac format and there is no transcoding active.
As Controlling Point I use the original Controlling of the networkplayer. The problem affects all the tracks of the album.
Volkerpf
Perhaps the FLAC files have variable blocksize. Some FLAC decoders can't handle this.
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - volkerpf - 09-11-2014 16:55
How can I see what blockformat the have? Is there any chance to change it if it is variable? But in this case how can the player plays the tracks with another streamserver? As I wrote mediamonkey works without problems, it shows the albumart and plays the 24/96 tracks.
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - Peter StreamMagic - 09-11-2014 17:36
(09-11-2014 16:55)volkerpf Wrote: How can I see what blockformat the have? Is there any chance to change it if it is variable? But in this case how can the player plays the tracks with another streamserver? As I wrote mediamonkey works without problems, it shows the albumart and plays the 24/96 tracks.
May be the size of the album art.
In my case the StreamMagic 6 renderer did not play some albums downloaded from HD tracks via Minim. Using Twonky I could play them,using
XBMC and Minim on my PC I could also play those albums. So no problem with the files.
Twonky downsizes album art so my renderer did not no "see" the large album art files.
I normally downsize the albumart to max 500x500 using FormatFactory and never had any problems since.
Peter
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - volkerpf - 09-11-2014 17:50
I changed the size of the folder and the size of the album art; the problem didn' changed.
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - Peter StreamMagic - 09-11-2014 18:08
(09-11-2014 17:50)volkerpf Wrote: I changed the size of the folder and the size of the album art; the problem didn' changed.
Both album art in "Folder" as the album art added to each track?
The second one is causing the troubles most of the time.
In my case anyway.
Peter.
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - simoncn - 09-11-2014 19:49
(09-11-2014 16:55)volkerpf Wrote: How can I see what blockformat the have? Is there any chance to change it if it is variable? But in this case how can the player plays the tracks with another streamserver? As I wrote mediamonkey works without problems, it shows the albumart and plays the 24/96 tracks.
MediaMonkey isn't using the same FLAC decoder as the Pioneer. It sounds like the MediaMonkey FLAC decoder can handle these files but the Pioneer FLAC decoder can't handle them.
Have you been able to play any other 24/96 FLAC files on the Pioneer using MinimServer? If not, it could be that the Pioneer doesn't support 24/96 FLAC files streamed via UPnP.
The other possibility is that there is something in the XML that MinimServer is sending to the control point that is causing the Pioneer control point or the Pioneer renderer to crash. Is the control point a separate app running on an iPhone or iPad, or is the control point built-in to the renderer device?
You can check the FLAC blocksize using the metaflac tool (see this page for download links). To run the tool, use this command:
Code:
metaflac --list --block-number=0 your-file-name.flacThe output will look like this:
METADATA block #0
type: 0 (STREAMINFO)
is last: false
length: 34
minimum blocksize: 4096 samples
maximum blocksize: 4096 samples
minimum framesize: 16 bytes
maximum framesize: 12953 bytes
sample_rate: 44100 Hz
channels: 2
bits-per-sample: 16
total samples: 9961308
MD5 signature: 89ce62cdf83815dcd058f345acb24563
If the minimum blocksize and maximum blocksize are different, this is a variable blocksize FLAC file.
RE: Trouble with minimserver on Pioneer N50 - volkerpf - 10-11-2014 17:38
Thank you all for your help. The problem is solved, it was the size of the album art. After changing this in all tracks the album can be played without any problem.