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Hello, The Cambridge Audio Connect app and the Stream Magic App show the values ​​of the following tags in the individual view of an album:

album
composer
(List of all) title

I miss the artist or album artist display. I don't want to hide the fact that the presentation is excellent for classical music, but essential information is missing for pop or jazz.
How can you configure the Minim Server so that the artist or album artist is displayed for pop or jazz and the composer for classical music?

Many greetings
Herb

I don't have a Cambridge Audio device, but I installed the Android StreamMagic app and pointed it to my Non-Classical music collection and it displayed fine (apart from truncating the beginning of the album name).
Once I'd selected an Album it showed:
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Admittedly my collection doesn't contain any classical music, but I'm inclined to think it's more of a configuration problem (at least I hope it's not the app at fault), so could you send us your indexTags, itemTags, tagOptions, tagValue and tagFormat values from your MinimServer configuration and we'll take a look.

(12-01-2021 14:43)simbun Wrote: [ -> ]I don't have a Cambridge Audio device, but I installed the Android StreamMagic app and pointed it to my Non-Classical music collection and it displayed fine (apart from truncating the beginning of the album name).
Once I'd selected an Album it showed:


Admittedly my collection doesn't contain any classical music, but I'm inclined to think it's more of a configuration problem (at least I hope it's not the app at fault), so could you send us your indexTags, itemTags, tagOptions, tagValue and tagFormat values from your MinimServer configuration and we'll take a look.

Many Thanks for your feedback signal. I've attached two screenshots. To clarify my question, another screenshot of the Connect app display.

In this screenshot it looks like the artists are displayed, not the composer.

Intriguing problem.

Following @simbun post, I also downloaded and tried the StreamMagic android app.
However, what I saw was different to @simbun and similar to the OP.

To cut a long story short, I created a number of 'test' albums/tracks and determined the following.

Individual Album display
- Album value = Album tag
- Album Artist value = in the following priority

1. Composer tag
2. Album Artist tag
3. Artist tag
   

Individual track display
- Title value = Title tag
- Artist value = in the following priority

1. Composer tag
2. Artist tag
   

I hope that is clear, i.e. Composer tag value takes precedence, if present, over either Album Artist or Artist.

Ah! further testing shows this symptom is caused by

tagCustom property containing the following

However, that does not help the OP.
Removing the above will simply replace the display of composer with artist.

The original question still remains.

(12-01-2021 20:11)Alandbush Wrote: [ -> ]Following @simbun post, I also downloaded and tried the StreamMagic android app.
However, what I saw was different to @simbun and similar to the OP.

Do you mean with the OP's config that was posted after my screenshot?

(12-01-2021 20:11)Alandbush Wrote: [ -> ]To cut a long story short, I created a number of 'test' albums/tracks and determined the following.

Individual Album display
- Album value = Album tag
- Album Artist value = in the following priority

1. Composer tag
2. Album Artist tag
3. Artist tag
   

Individual track display
- Title value = Title tag
- Artist value = in the following priority

1. Composer tag
2. Artist tag
   

I hope that is clear, i.e. Composer tag value takes precedence, if present, over either Album Artist or Artist.

I tried the various combinations of the displayRole setting and largely came to the same conclusion except AlbumArtist appeared with second precedence over Artist for the Title track too.

I assume you're not on Android, otherwise it would be an easy fix to move to BubbleUPnP.

If you can define what you'd like to see and where, it may be possible to create them with displayFormat - assuming moving to another control point is not an option.

The issue is caused by the StreamMagic app misinterpreting Composer and AlbumArtist values as Artist values. This is because the StreamMagic app doesn't understand the "role" attribute on the upnp:artist metadata XML tag sent by the server to the control point. The "role" attribute is used by UPnP servers to send Composer and AlbumArtist information to control points and is supported correctly by most UPnP servers and most UPnP control points.

To disable MinimServer's use of the "role" attribute, you can set tagCustom to an empty value (on MinimServer 0.8) or you can set upnpCustom to roleType={} (on MinimServer 2). With this setting, the StreamMagic app will display Artist information for both classical and non-classical albums and will not display Composer or AlbumArtist information.

If you want to see Composer or AlbumArtist information in the StreamMagic app as well as Artist information, you can use displayFormat to add Composer or AlbumArtist information to the Album and/or Title values.

I also tried the older Cambridge Connect app. This reads Composer and AlbumArtist information correctly (not replacing Artist information) but doesn't appear to use Composer information in its display.

(13-01-2021 07:42)simoncn Wrote: [ -> ]I also tried the older Cambridge Connect app. This reads Composer and AlbumArtist information correctly (not replacing Artist information) but doesn't appear to use Composer information in its display.

Do you mean the Cambridge Connect app shows correct Composer and AlbumArtist information after the use of the "role" attribute has been disabled (=empty value) by MinimServer?