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BBC radio streams not working
10-02-2015, 18:21
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BBC radio streams not working
The BBC appears to have discontinued the AAC streams for national radio stations. These are being replaced by new HLS AAC streams. I am working on a technical solution to enable MinimStreamer to handle the new HLS streams.
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11-02-2015, 19:28
Post: #2
RE: BBC radio streams not working
(10-02-2015 18:21)simoncn Wrote:  The BBC appears to have discontinued the AAC streams for national radio stations. These are being replaced by new HLS AAC streams. I am working on a technical solution to enable MinimStreamer to handle the new HLS streams.

Thanks Simon. This is causing mayhem among many users of Internet radios and devices such as Squeezebox. The BBC has carefully hidden the new URLs behind their radio player popups in browsers, so it's really hard to find out where to point things such as MinimStreamer. But from what you say above, we need more than just the URL anyway.

Looks like it's back to FM for me - which sounds much better anyway Smile
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13-02-2015, 18:23
Post: #3
RE: BBC radio streams not working
These are the 128kbps aac streams:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector...at/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector...at/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector...at/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector...at/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector...at/pls.pls

And these are the 320kbps AAC streams:

http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/man...o_one.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/man...o_two.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/man...three.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/man...ourfm.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/man...extra.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/man..._live.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/man...extra.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/man...music.m3u8

I've tried each one. I didn't find a url for Radio6 at 128kbps.
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14-02-2015, 12:34 (This post was last modified: 14-02-2015 12:41 by simoncn.)
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RE: BBC radio streams not working
(13-02-2015 18:23)Julian Hughes Wrote:  These are the 128kbps aac streams:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_three/format/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_fourfm/format/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_four_extra/format/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_five_live/format/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra/format/pls.pls

And these are the 320kbps AAC streams:

http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_four_extra.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_6music.m3u8

I've tried each one. I didn't find a url for Radio6 at 128kbps.

Thanks for this. I will be releasing a MinimStreamer update with HLS support soon.

Note: I have edited the URLs in the above quote so that they can be copied and pasted easily.
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14-02-2015, 14:50
Post: #5
RE: BBC radio streams not working
(14-02-2015 12:34)simoncn Wrote:  
(13-02-2015 18:23)Julian Hughes Wrote:  These are the 128kbps aac streams:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_three/format/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_fourfm/format/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_four_extra/format/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_five_live/format/pls.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra/format/pls.pls

And these are the 320kbps AAC streams:

http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_four_extra.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_6music.m3u8

I've tried each one. I didn't find a url for Radio6 at 128kbps.

Thanks for this. I will be releasing a MinimStreamer update with HLS support soon.

Note: I have edited the URLs in the above quote so that they can be copied and pasted easily.

I had mistakenly assumed maybe it was the UTF-8 .m3u8 file extension causing an issue (I have experienced several players which choke on that 8) but I didn't spend any time trying others. Interesting to find it's the HLS format, explains why my KitiKat devices play it fine but my old Archos running Froyo has finally encountered a format it can't play. HLS compatible Minimstreamer will save the day, at least at home, thanks.
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15-02-2015, 12:48 (This post was last modified: 15-02-2015 13:22 by Cebolla.)
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RE: BBC radio streams not working
(14-02-2015 12:34)simoncn Wrote:  I will be releasing a MinimStreamer update with HLS support soon.
Simon,

I've tried the current version of MinimStreamer with ffmpeg and the * input type (network streams of unspecified type) with the output set to wav. ffmpeg via MinimStreamer is certainly decoding those new BBC HLS AAC streams, at least to WAV!

Are you saying you are going provide a specific HLS AAC input type, with perhaps an additional 'standard' AAC output type, in the MinimStreamer update?
Will it still require ffmpeg?

John
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15-02-2015, 13:50
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RE: BBC radio streams not working
(15-02-2015 12:48)Cebolla Wrote:  
(14-02-2015 12:34)simoncn Wrote:  I will be releasing a MinimStreamer update with HLS support soon.
Simon,

I've tried the current version of MinimStreamer with ffmpeg and the * input type (network streams of unspecified type) with the output set to wav. ffmpeg via MinimStreamer is certainly decoding those new BBC HLS AAC streams, at least to WAV!

Are you saying you are going provide a specific HLS AAC input type, with perhaps an additional 'standard' AAC output type, in the MinimStreamer update?
Will it still require ffmpeg?

John
Doesn't seem to work for me. I use avconv (much the same as ffmpeg and it works in LMS to handle HLS streams). Are you just putting *:wav in the stream.transcode field?

I know that Simon is working on a solution, so I'm just curious as to how you made it work.
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15-02-2015, 15:06 (This post was last modified: 15-02-2015 15:07 by Cebolla.)
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RE: BBC radio streams not working
Indeed, just by putting *:wav in the stream.transcode field. My MinimServer's running on an old XP box (took the 'risk' of installing Java 8, BTW) and using ffmpeg version 2.5, if that's any help.
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15-02-2015, 15:53
Post: #9
RE: BBC radio streams not working
(15-02-2015 15:06)Cebolla Wrote:  Indeed, just by putting *:wav in the stream.transcode field. My MinimServer's running on an old XP box (took the 'risk' of installing Java 8, BTW) and using ffmpeg version 2.5, if that's any help.

It's interesting to hear this. If it's confirmed by other users, it would provide a temporary solution until the new support is available.
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15-02-2015, 16:01
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RE: BBC radio streams not working
So I assume you are using ffmpeg, not avconv.

Can you quote exactly what URL you are supplying, and how? In an m3u file, or what?
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